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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the public already made this choice when they elected Obama leader of the free world TWICE
    what 'free world' are you talking about, moron?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    LOL - okay, Yurt. Do you really think Cruz didn't say that?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...on-the-supreme

    You really haven't been paying attention. He has said that repeatedly over the course of the week.
    No moron... I wanted to see the context in which he said it. Which was not apparent based on your quote. Which is why I asked you for a link.

    So you see that in the above link he stated...

    "“We are facing our fundamental rights in the balance,” the Texas senator said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,“ citing “abortion on demand,” “religious liberty” and the Second Amendment."

    so in saying it should be a referendum on the SCOTUS seat, he is including how that will affect many other issues. On that he is correct.

    While I do not agree with him completely, I get his point. There are a lot of decisions in front of SCOTUS that are going to be affected by who replaces Scalia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    No moron... I wanted to see the context in which he said it. Which was not apparent based on your quote. Which is why I asked you for a link.

    So you see that in the above link he stated...

    "“We are facing our fundamental rights in the balance,” the Texas senator said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,“ citing “abortion on demand,” “religious liberty” and the Second Amendment."

    so in saying it should be a referendum on the SCOTUS seat, he is including how that will affect many other issues. On that he is correct.

    While I do not agree with him completely, I get his point. There are a lot of decisions in front of SCOTUS that are going to be affected by who replaces Scalia.


    I read that a couple of times just to be sure, but I think I can confirm at this point: you did not save any face w/ this lame explanation.

    Cruz is saying we should make the election about the vacancy. My point stands, strongly.

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    The election should not be a referendum on the Supreme Court appointment.


    There is a very good reason Supreme Court Justices are not elected officials and a good reason they have life time terms....

    These Justices, the defenders of our Constitution are intentionally insulated from the whims of the Mob. When the populace is scared after a terrorist attack or otherwise riled up, majority rule is often quick to violate Constitutional rights in exchange for some measure of freedom. The Supreme Court is intentionally insulated from elections because they are the protectors of the minority from the tyranny and whims of the majority.

    A supreme court justice needs to be free of fear for his job when it becomes unpopular to uphold a Constitutional principal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The election should not be a referendum on the Supreme Court appointment.


    There is a very good reason Supreme Court Justices are not elected officials and a good reason they have life time terms....

    These Justices, the defenders of our Constitution are intentionally insulated from the whims of the Mob. When the populace is scared after a terrorist attack or otherwise riled up, majority rule is often quick to violate Constitutional rights in exchange for some measure of freedom. The Supreme Court is intentionally insulated from elections because they are the protectors of the minority from the tyranny and whims of the majority.

    A supreme court justice needs to be free of fear for his job when it becomes unpopular to uphold a Constitutional principal.
    and yet, they often side with the mob, such as they did after 9/11, waco, etc. the dems and repubs have basically turned the USSC in to an extended branch of a political party.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I read that a couple of times just to be sure, but I think I can confirm at this point: you did not save any face w/ this lame explanation.

    Cruz is saying we should make the election about the vacancy. My point stands, strongly.
    told you he would just lie into he face of FACTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    and yet, they often side with the mob, such as they did after 9/11, waco, etc. the dems and repubs have basically turned the USSC in to an extended branch of a political party.


    dear idiot,


    Americans vote


    you get only one


    you are not king


    your just an internets sociopathic racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    dear idiot,

    Americans vote

    you get only one

    you are not king

    your just an internets sociopathic racist
    this is a very clear indication of just how much insane hatred desh is filled with, that after I excoriate a right wing supreme court for rubber stamping right wing policy that is blatantly against the constitution, she does a 180 and supports those decisions simply because it's something I posted.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    He really sets a great precedent for a Cruz Presidency w/ this one:

    " “You know what? The Senate is advising right now. We're advising that a lame-duck president in an election year is not going to be able to tip the balance of the Supreme Court, that we're going to have an election.”

    So, if he wins election, he'll only have 2 years in which he can name any justice to the court.
    I agree. Sometimes people don't think of the future ramifications of their comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    I agree. Sometimes people don't think of the future ramifications of their comments.
    I think it's more a matter of they don't care. They're worried about the here and now and how they can take advantage of the moment

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    Republicans are panicky mainly because it's Scalia. No one defined conservatism in the judiciary more than he did - probably in all of American history.

    He's an icon for many on the right. The idea of Obama naming his successor is completely objectionable to those folks. I kind of get that, but it's just not how justices on the court are decided. There is no guideline or even thought about replacing conservatives with conservatives and liberals with liberals, and maintaining some sort of imaginary balance that we've gotten used to.

    If conservatives win in the fall, they'll very likely be able to replace a liberal or 2. I don't expect them to choose liberals just to keep things even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    yes an evil man
    Hitler was evil. Scalia was just a strict originalist.

    Maybe a subtle difference to you, but world's apart for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    he was evil


    viewing other humans as lessors is evil
    Don't you view everyone on the right as a sociopath?

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