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    he's living off his middle manager dad. The dude had more motivation than this slacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    You're such a duty bound and laudable patriarch, a true template for the ideal man.
    True. And I smell good too, and I'm humble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    When it says college grad I assume it means recent college grad? And like Onceler said it's hard to judge without more info... is this person living off of money they previously made or are they just sitting at home living off of mom and dad? Kind of need to see the whole article to render judgment.
    He did link to the article in the first post.. . But here it is again for ya:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/bu...l?_r=2&ref=us4
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    My son could have more dope than Bob Marley and he still wouldn't be staying at my crib at 24.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    He did link to the article in the first post.. . But here it is again for ya:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/bu...l?_r=2&ref=us4
    I don't see his link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    40k per year is more than I made right out of law school. I started at the Public Defender's Office at 36k. What a fucking tard. You aren't going to be a mid level manager right out of college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I don't see his link.
    It's on the first line, you have to hover.
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    HA I worked there for 12 months and hated that company.. BUT for the record that's a sweet entry level position. Its a customer service position but great for learning the business. For a young aggressive person with a decent degree behind them it is by no means a dead end job. They can work there way out of that job into a non phone attached job within 12-18 months.

    A dead end job is specializing in something with no job growth. The above job can go to at least 5 different career paths within insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It's on the first line, you have to hover.
    ahhhhhh, my bad. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    40k per year is more than I made right out of law school. I started at the Public Defender's Office at 36k. What a fucking tard. You aren't going to be a mid level manager right out of college.
    true... but you started out of law school in 1912... so you need to adjust for inflation.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    40k per year is more than I made right out of law school. I started at the Public Defender's Office at 36k. What a fucking tard. You aren't going to be a mid level manager right out of college.
    Yeah, when I started in commercial real estate brokerage right out of school they paid us $30k. Being single and living in SF on $30k is not a very glamorous lifestyle.

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    17K for me with an accounting degree, pre PC days.
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    I cant find where it says what degree he got. If its general management it was a waste of money. its the major at my college that everyone that couldnt hack the accounting, finance, or economic classes fell back into.

    The landscape has changed. I would even venture to say that college may not even be worth it anymore unless its a specific degree from a specific college that has a good chance of paying back within 4years.

    Rule of thumb dont is dont waste your money on a kids college unless she/he can earn back the value of that degree within 4years.
    College cost: 50K per year x 4 = 200k.. kid gets job making avg of 35K over 4 years or 140k = not worth the investment.

    I know a guy who went to a maritime college for degree in emergency management. 20k a year instate tuition. 90% of the grads in that major will make 50k starting.. now thats a good investment.
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    28k base first job.. with ot and bonuses I made 38K in first 12months. Worked 8-8 on a Fidelity Trading floor. Had to get series 6, 7, 63 license within 6weeks of being hired or get fired. I was off the floor within 14 months to an analyst job.
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    last study I saw said average degree would net you 2.5 mil over your career. Keep in mind Chappy that wages for non skilled are falling while college grads are rising less fast.
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