This guy I know is moving from San Diego to New York and is driving across the country. He left SD yesterday and when he got to the AZ border there was a huge checkpoint where I guess they were checking for human smuggling. Anyway my buddy had weed in his car and at the checkpoint one of the police dogs started going crazy. Anyway they found the weed and paraphanalia (sp) and arrested him.
AZ police wanted to send him to jail but the border patrol guy I guess was cool and only sited him for a misdemeanor and let him go after a couple of hours. My friend had all his belongings in his car and the cops went through everything just trashing it. Pretty brutal.
A massive checkpoint at the Cali-Arizona border? WTF is this, a third-world dictatorship?This guy I know is moving from San Diego to New York and is driving across the country. He left SD yesterday and when he got to the AZ border there was a huge checkpoint where I guess they were checking for human smuggling.
LOL @ asking if he was addicted to weed. Is that actually a legitimate law enforcement question?
Well, my take away lesson is to never listen to those posters who claimed that Arizona would enforce their new "show me your papers" immigration law in a benign, responsible, and measured way. I don't see any evidence from your post regarding massive border checkpoints, and quizzing dudes on how much they smoke, that there was even a modest attempt to adhere to the normal and responsible standards of reasonable suspicion before search and seizure is executed. Another hilarious Dixie theory flushed down the toilet!
He was lucky too, the feds, let him go!
This is way funny; because you guys are jumping on a band wagon, putting in words like "massive" and then putting your own spin on it.
If you're on I-8 or I-10, coming from California, those check points have been there for at least 16 years that I know of.
They check the weight of the commercial trucks and are also looking for any importation of certain plants or fruit.
I have no idea how long they've had drug dogs there; because the last time I was through them, was over 11 years ago.
But you guys go ahead and tie this in with the rest of your paranioa; because at least it gives me something to laugh at.
Their inclusion of drug sniffing dogs takes their "16 years at least" procedure of controlling certain plants and fruits, and pushes it across the line of constitutionality. With drug sniffing dogs running arouns "casually" checking vehicles makes it nothing less than "stop everyone looking for criminals". Our Constitution says they cannot do that. The guy should sue for civil rights violations.
You cannot expect to be able to discard the rule of law in favor of the rule of force and have those you target not respond in kind.
California is the only state to have border guard between U.S. States.. I dont know how they get away with it,but its been that way for a long time.
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They politely ask you if you have fruits or vegetables, and then you're on your way. Most people would consider it a civic duty to help protect the agricultural food supply. They've never executed a search, nor have I ever seen drug sniffing dogs. If cawacko's story is accurate, this checkpoint was obviously a broad sweep of everyone for criminal activity, regardless of any legally defensible reasonable suspicion standard of accountability.
Last edited by Cypress; 05-17-2010 at 06:26 AM.
No offense cawacko but your friend is no Rhodes Scholar. Don't travel thru Ghestapo land with the green medicine.
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