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    If you don't want to be the minority for a long, long time... Pay attention GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Can you sum it up?
    No.

    But I'll try anyway.

    Basically, what happened in CO was a direct attack at the State Legislative bodies so that they could control redistricting. There were 4 (yeah, really just 4) very rich people who donated to political organizations with direct intent of funneling money into this effort. Amazingly, they did exactly what they pretend the R party has always done, the Very Rich controlled the election by message management.

    For example, in the last election the Ds spent (and this is just the reported amounts, it doesn't cover the 527s that don't report who and how much) 3.5 million in the last election just on the State Legislators, 2.8 Million of that came from those 4 people. In contrast the Rs spent $854,000 on the state legislator races.

    In CO this is huge, the Majority leaders in the legislative bodies put 2 people each on the redistricting board, the Governor puts 2 (that's 6) and the state supreme court adds 5. If they control one of those bodies and the SC (which they do) that means that it is a 7 to 4 deficit on that body for Rs who will be redistricted into nothing...

    The book goes into how these people, using their funds, got groups that were "at odds" in the D Party to come together and fight as one (this is the 527s, not the Party groups, they donate to them but they mostly work through things at the state level that are equivalent to moveon.org and Progress Now! and other groups like that.) By doing that they were able to maximize control of the message, data-mining on the interwebs allowed them to target messaging like never before, and other things they did to take control of the state... This formula is now being applied in 2 dozen other states...
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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    Right on

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/national/02REDI.html


    WASHINGTON, Dec. 1 — The Colorado Supreme Court on Monday rejected a Republican effort to redraw the state's Congressional map to the party's advantage, handing Democrats a victory in the first of a series of legal fights that could help determine control of the House.

    The court, in a 5-to-2 decision, ruled that Colorado's Constitution allowed only one round of Congressional redistricting after each 10-year census. The judges found that the Republican-controlled Legislature exceeded its authority last May when it tried to replace a map imposed by a federal court in 2002 after the House and Senate deadlocked.

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    http://www.denverpost.com/politics/c...357?source=rss

    pretty good article on the situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No.

    But I'll try anyway.

    Basically, what happened in CO was a direct attack at the State Legislative bodies so that they could control redistricting. There were 4 (yeah, really just 4) very rich people who donated to political organizations with direct intent of funneling money into this effort. Amazingly, they did exactly what they pretend the R party has always done, the Very Rich controlled the election by message management.

    For example, in the last election the Ds spent (and this is just the reported amounts, it doesn't cover the 527s that don't report who and how much) 3.5 million in the last election just on the State Legislators, 2.8 Million of that came from those 4 people. In contrast the Rs spent $854,000 on the state legislator races.

    In CO this is huge, the Majority leaders in the legislative bodies put 2 people each on the redistricting board, the Governor puts 2 (that's 6) and the state supreme court adds 5. If they control one of those bodies and the SC (which they do) that means that it is a 7 to 4 deficit on that body for Rs who will be redistricted into nothing...

    The book goes into how these people, using their funds, got groups that were "at odds" in the D Party to come together and fight as one (this is the 527s, not the Party groups, they donate to them but they mostly work through things at the state level that are equivalent to moveon.org and Progress Now! and other groups like that.) By doing that they were able to maximize control of the message, data-mining on the interwebs allowed them to target messaging like never before, and other things they did to take control of the state... This formula is now being applied in 2 dozen other states...
    If i could take the liberty of summing up your summing up -

    They had more money and were more devious.

    Don't lose hope though. At some point the R party will get more money and/or become more devious and the roles will be reversed.

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    and so the dumbed down people lose.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    I think we need to reject this realpolitik cynicism. It's stupid.

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    We can win with protectionism. Most people want it, it just the paid agit-prop agents who scream otherwise.

    Protectionism Now.
    Americans Forever.

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    Its called Gerrymandering Damo. Its was invented by Elbridge Gerry when he was govenor of Massachusetts in 1812.

    It's been a hallmark of both parties politics ever since.



    This is NC district 12, after a long court battle to make it less Gerrymandered.






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    I know what Gerrymandering is... Seriously, just read the book. If the GOP doesn't pay attention they'll be permanent minority for decades after about 4 election cycles.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I know what Gerrymandering is... Seriously, just read the book. If the GOP doesn't pay attention they'll be permanent minority for decades after about 4 election cycles.
    yeah, and we have to racially pander to hispanics and discriminate against white people too....

    voters should ignore the "wisdom" of the two party pundits.

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    Focussing on big huge winning ideas like defending americans against idiot globalism is a much better approach. It will be so successful and popular, no amount gerrymandering will be able to stop the wave.

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    Actually, this would be good reading for the Libertarian Party too. They can use much of this to actually make themselves into something more than silly 1%ers of Politics.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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