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    Default Why do people often vote against their own interests?

    'Drew Westen argues that stories rather than facts convince voters.'


    "The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm

    An Aggregation of Nincompoops - democrats are too damn....
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...of_nincompoops

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'Drew Westen argues that stories rather than facts convince voters.'


    "The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm

    An Aggregation of Nincompoops - democrats are too damn....
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...of_nincompoops
    Something not considered, "Greater good," or what used to be called, "Civic virtue."

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    I only vote against YOUR interests.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'Drew Westen argues that stories rather than facts convince voters.'


    "The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm

    An Aggregation of Nincompoops - democrats are too damn....
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...of_nincompoops
    All we can hope for is people will become more educated.
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    people are influenced to vote against their own interests by propaganda, and a dishonest use of abstractions.

    Consider dixie and his simplistic "people are corporations" idiocy.

    the idea that it's fine if the middle class is decimated as long as coporate profits rise is a great example.
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    or "what's good for corporations is good for america". These idiotic bromides are harmful.

    If you consider 'america' to be politicians on the take and rich people destroying the middle class for profit, then you're right. But if you consider america to be the vast majority of it's middle class workers then you're obviously wrong.
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    62 percent of Americans wanted the public option.

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    This is hilarious. The effort to paint Americans who voted against healthcare reform as ignorant of the facts instead of democrats waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans were unhappy about being forcefed a 1,000 plus page of healthcare reform laws that their own representatives either hadn't read, didn't understand, or wouldn't talk about it.

    no wonder you're gonna lose big in 2010 and no wonder you can't learn anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    This is hilarious. The effort to paint Americans who voted against healthcare reform as ignorant of the facts instead of democrats waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans were unhappy about being forcefed a 1,000 plus page of healthcare reform laws that their own representatives either hadn't read, didn't understand, or wouldn't talk about it.

    no wonder you're gonna lose big in 2010 and no wonder you can't learn anything.
    No doubt, the willful and obvious misinterpretation of Scott Brown's success makes lib look either idiotic, dishonest or both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'Drew Westen argues that stories rather than facts convince voters.'


    "The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm

    An Aggregation of Nincompoops - democrats are too damn....
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...of_nincompoops
    They don't. They just voted their interest which was contrary to yours. Why do people so often think that their interests are a match to the interests of others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    They don't. They just voted their interest which was contrary to yours. Why do people so often think that their interests are a match to the interests of others?
    I've already answered this. Abstraction abuse on the part of propaganda artists.

    Neocons do it to with their "what's good for corporations is good for america" idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    'Drew Westen argues that stories rather than facts convince voters.'


    "The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman looks at why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm

    An Aggregation of Nincompoops - democrats are too damn....
    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...of_nincompoops
    The answer is quite simple....some folks put their beliefs, values and ethics above their greed...

    Do you blabber, bluster, and blow smoke ?...then you're likely a Democrat
    Do you use
    'strawman' arguments' 95% of the time ?....then you're likely a Democrat

    The law (Obamacare) was deliberately written in a confusing way so “stupid” American voters wouldn’t understand
    the real cost to them and thus would be less likely to oppose it. Prof. J. Gruber


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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    The answer is quite simple....some folks put their beliefs, values and ethics above their greed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    All we can hope for is people will become more educated.
    HA! That will be the day. To quote H.L. Menkin "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    This is hilarious. The effort to paint Americans who voted against healthcare reform as ignorant of the facts instead of democrats waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans were unhappy about being forcefed a 1,000 plus page of healthcare reform laws that their own representatives either hadn't read, didn't understand, or wouldn't talk about it.

    no wonder you're gonna lose big in 2010 and no wonder you can't learn anything.
    Actually it you who is ignorant of the facts, poll after poll has shown that opposition to the HC reform bill is split evenly between those who think it goes to far and those who think it doesn't go far enough. It's those who are in the middle that are losing out. Remember the old saying "The only thing you find in the middle of the road is a dead skunk."? HC is an outstanding example of where the middle has been steam rolled by the extremes.
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