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    Miss Elizabeth Smart.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,558548,00.html

    for having the strength to confront and testify against the beast who raped her for 9 months.

    You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. —CHARLES A. BEARD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    Miss Elizabeth Smart.


    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,558548,00.html

    for having the strength to confront and testify against the beast who raped her for 9 months.

    Although I celebrate her escape and courage to testify against the monster who abducted her .. there are far more courageous people in America risking their lives everyday here and in our made-up wars.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

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    If she was black she's be the bravest though, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Although I celebrate her escape and courage to testify against the monster who abducted her .. there are far more courageous people in America risking their lives everyday here and in our made-up wars.
    I give this title with all of that in mind. I have to consider her age when she was abducted and the 9 months of hell that went along with it when attributing her courage and strength to not only survive, but to recover like she has.
    You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. —CHARLES A. BEARD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    I give this title with all of that in mind. I have to consider her age when she was abducted and the 9 months of hell that went along with it when attributing her courage and strength to not only survive, but to recover like she has.
    Don't get me wrong my friend .. I SERIOUSLY applaud her and it's terrible what she had to go through.

    I may be a bit biased given that I have a daughter in the military who has already been through two tours in IRaq .. and scheduled to go back in December .. and I've been through two tours of nightmares and scheduled for more come December.

    Pardon my bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Don't get me wrong my friend .. I SERIOUSLY applaud her and it's terrible what she had to go through.

    I may be a bit biased given that I have a daughter in the military who has already been through two tours in IRaq .. and scheduled to go back in December .. and I've been through two tours of nightmares and scheduled for more come December.

    Pardon my bias.
    completely understood considering I also served. kudos and much respect both to you and your daughter. may you both come home victorious and in one piece.
    You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for independence. —CHARLES A. BEARD
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    completely understood considering I also served. kudos and much respect both to you and your daughter. may you both come home victorious and in one piece.
    I knew you'd understand my momentary dementia.

    Thank you brother.
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    There isn't really a need to determine the "most" courageous but I think we can agree those fighting overseas and Elizabeth Smart all rank at the top of the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    There isn't really a need to determine the "most" courageous but I think we can agree those fighting overseas and Elizabeth Smart all rank at the top of the list.
    That's what I should have said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    There isn't really a need to determine the "most" courageous but I think we can agree those fighting overseas and Elizabeth Smart all rank at the top of the list.
    Is it courageous to join a system in which you simply do as you are told? Whatever the circumstances it takes more courage to say 'No' than to blindly follow. Of course there are soldiers, sailors and airmen who are extremely courageous but, as with any other section of society, there are cowards and there are heroes.
    I'm sorry but the statement, 'He/she/I/you served one/two/three tours of duty is pretty meaningless in the 'courage' stakes.
    'I was captured and refused to tell my captors under threats and torture.' is pretty courageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    ... I have a daughter in the military...

    Pardon my bias.
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    There are many very curageous people in america.
    Take a person who chooses to care for a terminally ill parent? or a parent with altzheimers? Severey crippled or retarded? Those people wo do this day after day and only get crap and no thanks from the one they are caring for are some of the mostr curageous people I know of.

    The only difference between bravery and foolhardiness in many cases is the reason for doing the act.

    Climbing a mountain just to do it is not bravery. Doing it save some fool who is hurt up there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    There are many very curageous people in america.
    Take a person who chooses to care for a parent with altzheimers? Severey crippled or retarded? Those people wo do this day after day and only get crap and no thanks from the one they are caring for are some of the mostr curageous people I know of.
    I agree. Your children are especially c-o-u-r-a-g-e-o-u-s!

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    I really feel sorry for this kid....because her father is one disingenuous little SOB.

    I remember when the kid was snatched and Daddy was holding numerous press conferences NOT like a panicked, grief stricken Dad with Mom sporting constant similar dopey smiles, but like some well oiled politico or corporate CEO. I was like, who the fuck is this clown...or who does he think he is? It was HIS fault the kid was snatched, because you DO NOT let day workers have access to the inside of your house.

    When Amy was recovered and after a stay at the hospital released home, Papa Smart has a press conference to tell the world that the family immediately went into their prayer routine to maker her feel at home?

    Excuse me? The initial reports stated the kid told how her abductor was a religious wack job who was constently at her with sleep deprevation techniques, etc. Common sense would should have told Papa Smart...ease up on the knee bending, it won't kill you. But hey, the public had to know that the good Christian values that lead the Smarts to hire the bum for housework that got the kid snatched in the first place were still intact. And always with that dopey smile.

    Well, a few weeks after she's home, Papa Smart announces his bid for congressional rep for his county....he failed.

    Now here we are again, and Amy tells the world the bastard repeatedly raped her. There's Papa Smart in front of the cameras, choking back tears and telling the world he never knew of the horror she went through.

    Excuse me?

    The hospitial did a full medical and psych evaluation of this kid when she was rescued. Papa Smart wants us to know that they forgot to tell him that she was raped? Or that the examinations missed that she was raped? Hmmm, wouldn't the later result in a serious lawsuit? Maybe Papa Smart just forgot over 7 years.

    I feel sorry for this kid....God go with her for surviving that horror and still have her head on straight. As for Papa Smart....he leaves a trail wherever he goes. Pity kids can't choose their parents.
    During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

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