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    Default JSOC CIA Execution Teams - could that be the hidden program?

    Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh describes ‘executive assassination ring’

    “After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.

    “Right now, today, there was a story in the New York Times that if you read it carefully mentioned something known as the Joint Special Operations Command — JSOC it’s called. It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently. They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. They did not report to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff or to Mr. [Robert] Gates, the secretary of defense. They reported directly to him. …

    “Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.

    “Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.

    “It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue. Because they are young men that went into the Special Forces. The Delta Forces you’ve heard about. Navy Seal teams. Highly specialized.

    “In many cases, they were the best and the brightest. Really, no exaggerations. Really fine guys that went in to do the kind of necessary jobs that they think you need to do to protect America. And then they find themselves torturing people.

    “I’ve had people say to me — five years ago, I had one say: ‘What do you call it when you interrogate somebody and you leave them bleeding and they don’t get any medical committee and two days later he dies. Is that murder? What happens if I get before a committee?’

    “But they’re not gonna get before a committee.”
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    Sounds like a good way to avoid the time and expense of an all-out war, just assassinate a few of the lead bad guys. I'm all for it. *shrug*

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    Can you imagine how illegal this is?

    Probably ordered by Cheney too.

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    War isn't illegal. *shrug*

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    You're a monster, SM. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    War isn't illegal. *shrug*
    Assassination is very illegal by US law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    You're a monster, SM. *shrug*
    No, he's pretty cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Assassination is very illegal by US law.
    Not always. I'm sure there's plenty of loopholes. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuTu Monroe View Post
    No, he's pretty cute.
    Awww...

    I'm a cute monster. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Awww...

    I'm a cute monster. *shrug*
    Nope, you are a cute, snuggly teddy bear.
    McCain to Obama. "If you don't like our bill, send troops to help us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuTu Monroe View Post
    Nope, you are a cute, snuggly teddy bear.
    LOL You must be thinking of my Italian brother-in-law with the hairy back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Assassination is very illegal by US law.
    it shouldn't be though, sometimes it's def necessary


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    Quote Originally Posted by ∞zo View Post
    it shouldn't be though, sometimes it's def necessary
    Only conservatives are monstrous enough to be executed. That's the only time when it's necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Assassination is very illegal by US law.
    I thought that it was just an Executive Order. In fact, since it is "foreign policy" it could only be an Executive Order.

    What if there were "open" executive orders, and "classified" ones that you don't see?

    This is just hypothetical, BTW, I'm not defending this or arguing against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ∞zo View Post
    it shouldn't be though, sometimes it's def necessary
    I'm glad somebody else remembers that glorious day in November '63.

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