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    Angry Televangelist Bill Keller says child molesters can go to heaven

    Part of my discussion with him


    KingRaw!-

    Bill, can anyone get into heaven as along as they accept Christ into their life and ask for forgivness? Even child molesters and murderers?

    Bill Keller-

    absolutely..Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed, Bill Keller


    KingRaw!-

    Wait a minute. Are you telling me if a guy had just murdered a little girl and knew he was about to be killed by the father, if he asked god for forgivness and accepted Christ as his savior, he'd go to heaven?


    Bill Keller-

    ..if he is sincere and meant it..go read about the thief on the cross..who was almost dead..and was forgiven..why.you think your sins are any better??


    Do I think my sins are any better than kidnapping, raping and murdering a 9 year old girl? That's a hard one! Hmmm, I did use to masterbate so I guess it makes me even with John Couey. You see folks, a sin is a sin no matter what. Whether it's getting a blow job by your girlfriend or raping a 5 year old in the ass, it's the same in God's eyes. There are no levels of sin. God doesn't care as long as you repent at the last minute. Bill Keller has said before that Hitler is in heaven if he repented. Same goes for Osama. As long as you repent and become an evangelical christian, you WILL go to heaven.

    Now I know all of you Liberals get offended when Bill Keller says Child molesters can go to heaven, but there's a solution. Just go down to Bill Keller's studios (LivePrayer 6660 46th Avenue North. St Petersburg FL 33709) and "pay him a visit". As long as you repent right after, you'll be fine.

    In a sad note, Evangelist Tony Alamos was arrested for speaking the truth of God. Just because he said 12 year old girls should be allowed to marry 40 year old men and have sex with them, is no reason to arrest him! God said that puberty is the official age of consent so I am waiting for an apology from the police!!! Sure, there's evidence of Tony being involved in child porn and basically child trafficking, but where's the harm in that? Tony said that God said it was ok so what's the problem? Bill Keller says child molesters can go to heaven. ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE'S WRONG TO? You will all burn in hell unless you repent...

    Go to Bill Keller's getting owned on FaceBook to see more of the truth or e-mail Bill Keller at bkeller@liveprayer.com
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    Raw, the whole pitch for christianity is that everyone gets forgiven.

    Did you expect Keller to say any differently?

    Do you think you caught him at something? After all, he is only saying what he believes God will do.

    Keller is a televangelist. That puts him right down with insurance salesmen and people who sell Amway.

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    I noticed on October 2nd he'll be doing a show I'm sure AHZ won't want to miss on "The Masonic cult"....
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    Christianity would have few followers if not for the forgiveness factor.
    A smart marketing move.
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    Child molesters don't go to heaven. Neither does anyone else. We all decompose at about the same rate too, unless someone's thrown some chemicals on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Christianity would have few followers if not for the forgiveness factor.
    A smart marketing move.
    Christian forgiveness isn't really forgiveness. It's faith based self righteousnous.

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    Raw, the whole pitch for christianity is that everyone gets forgiven.

    Just ask normal christians. You know, actual christians.

    Did you expect Keller to say any differently?

    Even I thought Keller wouldn't think John Couey or Hitler could go to heaven.

    Do you think you caught him at something? After all, he is only saying what he believes God will do.

    Just like Tony Alamos said what he believes. And yes, I did catch him in his retard cult propaganda. Saying child molesters can go to heaven, while having lust one time can send you to hell will make any reasonable person sick to their stomach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRaw! View Post
    Raw, the whole pitch for christianity is that everyone gets forgiven.

    Just ask normal christians. You know, actual christians.

    Did you expect Keller to say any differently?

    Even I thought Keller wouldn't think John Couey or Hitler could go to heaven.

    Do you think you caught him at something? After all, he is only saying what he believes God will do.

    Just like Tony Alamos said what he believes. And yes, I did catch him in his retard cult propaganda. Saying child molesters can go to heaven, while having lust one time can send you to hell will make any reasonable person sick to their stomach.
    Most regular christians (whatever that is) will also tell you that people who repent and ask for forgiveness (and are sincere in both) will go to heaven.

    Having lust one time in your life, if you repent and ask for forgiveness, will not send you to hell. It doesn't matter what you do, if you accept Jesus as your savior and repent, you will get into heaven. This is the basis for all of christianity. Anyone who says different is going against the very principles of christianity.

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    Well I know about 100 christians who don't believe that. Child molesters and child murderers can't get into heaven.


    Having lust one time in your life, if you repent and ask for forgiveness, will not send you to hell.


    And if you don't ask for forgiveness, you will burn in hell. Doesn't seem very logical...
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    I'll be back later, man who says christians think child kidnappers/rapists/killers can get into heaven, but a man who has lust one time can go to hell for that.
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    You chat with this guy often?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRaw! View Post
    Well I know about 100 christians who don't believe that. Child molesters and child murderers can't get into heaven.


    Having lust one time in your life, if you repent and ask for forgiveness, will not send you to hell.


    And if you don't ask for forgiveness, you will burn in hell. Doesn't seem very logical...
    As I have said, it all hinges on repenting and asking for forgiveness. That is the key. It is not about the rules, it is about a genuine regret for what you have done wrong and a sincere request for forgiveness.

    Those 100 christians you know that do not believe are allowing their own emotional judgement to interfere with what their own book says.

    The most well known passage in the bible is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life.".

    There is no "except for child molesters". It is a blanket promise that is the cornerstone of the entire christian belief system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRaw! View Post
    I'll be back later, man who says christians think child kidnappers/rapists/killers can get into heaven, but a man who has lust one time can go to hell for that.
    You are trying to cloud the issue with details.

    According to christianity, if you repent and ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as your savior, you are forgiven any sin.

    If you sin and do not repent or ask forgiveness, then you will got to hell. (some believe in purgatory as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitary View Post
    You are trying to cloud the issue with details.

    According to christianity, if you repent and ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus as your savior, you are forgiven any sin.

    If you sin and do not repent or ask forgiveness, then you will got to hell. (some believe in purgatory as well)
    It is one of the problems, IMHO, with evangelical Christianity. I've heard a lot of people say they will do horrible things and do horrible things without regret because they believe that if they just pray they're going to heaven anyway. The general belief, I think, was that if you truly believe in God you won't do those things against him, not that if you did them and then said a prayer afterwards everything was A-OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    It is one of the problems, IMHO, with evangelical Christianity. I've heard a lot of people say they will do horrible things and do horrible things without regret because they believe that if they just pray they're going to heaven anyway. The general belief, I think, was that if you truly believe in God you won't do those things against him, not that if you did them and then said a prayer afterwards everything was A-OK.
    What you are describing, WM, fails the premise in one central way. The repentence must be sincere.

    While it is true that you would not do the things against God, there is an allowance for losing your faith or backsliding. And there is the allowance for those who come to God later in life.

    "The general belief, I think, was that if you truly believe in God you won't do those things against him"

    This is the reason why the actual translation for the word "sin" is a separation from God.

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