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    Just a mini preview of what happens if we get cut off from the mideast.
    Addicts cut off from their supplier.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Just a mini preview of what happens if we get cut off from the mideast.
    Addicts cut off from their supplier.
    Which is why we need to start reducing dependency on foreign oil as fast as possible. That means using EVERY means available, to include drilling any and every place we have a hope of finding our own oil. (Yes I know you are in favor of drilling - I am speaking in general based on your remark.)

    AND it means developing alternates as fast as possible. But not at the expense of setting up a never-ending policy of subsidizing alternate fuels. Subsidize the development of alternate, not the production of alternates.

    The Pickens Plan has several good ideas. Our governor has some good ideas. McCain has some good ideas. And Obama has some good ideas. IMO none, by themselves, have THE answer. But, perhaps throw them all together and weed out the mutually exclusive ideas, we may come up with a real, full blown solution.

    One thing is certain. We need to get off the blame game ("It' Bush's fault." "No, it's the democrats blocking drilling for 20 years." Get the hell off of finger pointing and do what many are simply giving lip service to - including McCain and Obama - work together to get things done.

    One other thing is certain, we, as citizens, need to quit leaving it up to the government. We are the ones actually driving the economy with our purchase decisions. As such, we have the greatest ability to affect change by changing the way WE do things, through changing our purchase habits. (Not to mention our voting habits.)

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    Hey I pretty much agree with that. Especially Senator McCain working in a bi partisan manner with president Obama.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    we could reduce our fuel usage by doing many things. Use a motorcycle or scooter. Stop driving back and forth to the store up the street 12 times a day. car pool. lots of other things.

    how much gas in gallons does one go through in a week?
    I go through 5 gallons a week using the motorcycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    we could reduce our fuel usage by doing many things. Use a motorcycle or scooter. Stop driving back and forth to the store up the street 12 times a day. car pool. lots of other things.

    how much gas in gallons does one go through in a week?
    I go through 5 gallons a week using the motorcycle.
    Get married, have some kids, burn some gas. You unamerican person you.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    I found what appears to be the last gas station with premium last night and filled up to the tune of 80 dollars .. and you're right, one would think they wouldn't miss this opportunity to gouge the hell out of drivers, many of whom would pay 5 or 6 dollars a gallon just to get home.

    Some people are following tanker trucks. I just saw a convoy of about 30 cars following a tanker truck.

    Incredible
    smart.

    I'll keep that in mind if gas shortages come up our way.
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    Hijack the tanker trunk and take it for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Hijack the tanker trunk and take it for free.

    APPROVES!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ib1yysguy View Post
    Hijack the tanker trunk and take it for free.
    Road Warrior coming to a highway near you.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Road Warrior coming to a highway near you.
    I drive on Atlanta interstates. The only difference between that and the Road Warrior is the haircuts.

    Well......that an the fact the cars move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solitary View Post
    I drive on Atlanta interstates. The only difference between that and the Road Warrior is the haircuts.

    Well......that an the fact the cars move.
    That darned beltway and north end sucks. I worked for a year or so up around the north end.

    I just go into combat mode everytime I drive in Atlanta.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Garbage. I work in the heart of midtown. I haven't missed any days due to 'no gas,' and it's not becuase I live close by. My daily dive is in excess of an hour.

    I ride MARTA whenever I can. (MARTA = Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta. I feel like a marshmallow in the cocoa!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte27 View Post
    Garbage. I work in the heart of midtown. I haven't missed any days due to 'no gas,' and it's not becuase I live close by. My daily dive is in excess of an hour.

    I ride MARTA whenever I can. (MARTA = Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta. I feel like a marshmallow in the cocoa!)
    "Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta" .. that's funny.

    If you're driving through Atlanta this week there is no way you aren't affected by the gas shortage .. unless you're floating through like the perverbial marshmallow.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

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    To the geniuses who profess that this is somehow all because liberals/democrats won't drill our way out of this ...



    Impacts of Increased Access to Oil and Natural Gas Resources in the Lower 48 Federal Outer Continental Shelf

    The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030. Leasing would begin no sooner than 2012, and production would not be expected to start before 2017. Total domestic production of crude oil from 2012 through 2030 in the OCS access case is projected to be 1.6 percent higher than in the reference case, and 3 percent higher in 2030 alone, at 5.6 million barrels per day. For the lower 48 OCS, annual crude oil production in 2030 is projected to be 7 percent higher—2.4 million barrels per day in the OCS access case compared with 2.2 million barrels per day in the reference case (Figure 20). Because oil prices are determined on the international market, however, any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.

    Similarly, lower 48 natural gas production is not projected to increase substantially by 2030 as a result of increased access to the OCS. Cumulatively, lower 48 natural gas production from 2012 through 2030 is projected to be 1.8 percent higher in the OCS access case than in the reference case. Production levels in the OCS access case are projected at 19.0 trillion cubic feet in 2030, a 3-percent increase over the reference case projection of 18.4 trillion cubic feet. However, natural gas production from the lower 48 offshore in 2030 is projected to be 18 percent (590 billion cubic feet) higher in the OCS access case (Figure 21). In 2030, the OCS access case projects a decrease of $0.13 in the average wellhead price of natural gas (2005 dollars per thousand cubic feet), a decrease of 250 billion cubic feet in imports of liquefied natural gas, and an increase of 360 billion cubic feet in natural gas consumption relative to the reference case projections. In addition, despite the increase in production from previously restricted areas after 2012, total natural gas production from the lower 48 OCS is projected generally to decline after 2020.

    Although a significant volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable oil and natural gas resources is added in the OCS access case, conversion of those resources to production would require both time and money. In addition, the average field size in the Pacific and Atlantic regions tends to be smaller than the average in the Gulf of Mexico, implying that a significant portion of the additional resource would not be economically attractive to develop at the reference case prices.


    The quick and dirty is the report deflates most of the arguments for drilling in the areas that were under a federal moratorium—mostly off the coasts of California and Florida. Doing so would increase oil production only by 200,000 barrels of oil a day, or just about 1 percent of the country's daily consumption. Furthermore, that level of production won't kick in until 2017 and will never have any impact on oil prices.

    Think again genius.
    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful mindfuck. It transfixes it's host with the terror of inconvenient truth .. the brain becomes motionless .. and all avenues to critical thought are blocked.

    Even science no longer makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webbway View Post
    LOL

    Reminds me of the 70's under Carter, shortages, long lines, and could only gas up on odd/even days depending on your license plate. Welcome to Al Gore's utopia.
    You fucking moron. That was Nixon!

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