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    3 Detectives in Bell Shooting Acquitted
    By MICHAEL WILSON
    Three detectives were found not guilty Friday morning on all charges in the November, 2006, shooting death of Sean Bell, who died in a hail of 50 police bullets outside a club in Jamaica, Queens.
    The verdict prompted several supporters of Mr. Bell to storm out of the courtroom, and screams could be heard in the hallway moments later.The verdict comes 17 months to the day since the Nov. 25, 2006, shooting of Mr. Bell, 23, and his friends, Joseph Guzman and Trent Benefield, outside the Club Kalua in Jamaica, Queens, hours before Mr. Bell was to be married.
    It was delivered in a pack courtroom and was heard by, among others, the slain man’s parents and his fiancee. About 150 Bell supporters had been gathered outside the Queens Criminal Court building before the verdict, handing out leaflets.
    The seven-week trial, which ended April 14, was heard by Justice Arthur J. Cooperman of State Supreme Court in Queens. The defendants waived their right to a jury in January, a strategy some lawyers called risky at the time. But it clearly paid off with Friday’s verdict.The detectives were charged collectively with committing eight crimes amid the 50 gunshots that brought worldwide attention. Detectives Isnora and Oliver faced the most charges: first- and second-degree manslaughter, with a possible sentence of 25 years in prison; felony assault, first and second degree; and a misdemeanor, reckless endangerment, with a possible one-year sentence. Detective Oliver also faces a second count of first-degree assault. Detective Marc Cooper was charged only with two counts of reckless endangerment.
    During the 26 days of testimony, the prosecution sought to show, with an array of 50 witnesses, that the shooting was the act of a frightened, even enraged group of disorganized police officers who began their shift that night hoping to arrest a prostitute or two and, in suspecting Mr. Bell and his friends of possessing a gun, quickly got in over their heads.
    “We ask police to risk their lives to protect ours,” said an assistant district attorney, Charles A. Testagrossa, in his closing arguments. “Not to risk our lives to protect their own.”
    The defense, through weeks of often heated cross-examinations, their own witnesses and the words of the detectives themselves, portrayed the shooting as the tragic end to a nonetheless justified confrontation, with Detective Isnora having what it called solid reasons to believe he was the only thing standing between Mr. Bell’s car and a drive-by shooting around the corner.
    Several witnesses testified that they heard talk of guns in an argument between Mr. Bell and a stranger, Fabio Coicou, outside Kalua, an argument, the defense claimed, that was fueled by bravado and Mr. Bell’s intoxicated state. Defense lawyers pointed their fingers at Mr. Guzman, who, they said, in shouting for Mr. Bell to drive away when Detective Isnora approached, may have instigated his death.
    Detective Isnora told grand jurors last year that he clipped his badge to his collar and drew his gun, shouting, “Police! Don’t move!” as he approached Mr. Bell’s Nissan Altima.
    Other witnesses, mostly friends of Mr. Bell, said they never heard shouts of “Police!” Mr. Guzman and Mr. Benefield testified that they had no idea that Detective Guzman was a police officer when he walked up with his gun drawn.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/ny...gewanted=print

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    Whoah
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyT View Post
    Whoah

    Yeah.

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    So cops are allowed to murder us in cold blood.

    That judge needs to be flogged and those @$$holes need to be sent to prison. That's ridiculous.
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    If this had been a jury trial they'd all be in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If this had been a jury trial they'd all be in jail.
    Yeah I doubt a NY city jury would have aquited them on all charges at any rate.

    That judge is in the bag.

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    shit. wonder if this will cause riots.
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    I don't know if there are going to be riots, but if there is march planned this weekend, I'm seriously thinking about going. This has me more upset than Hillary at the moment, and that's saying a lot. This is yet another slap in the face to his family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyT View Post
    I don't know if there are going to be riots, but if there is march planned this weekend, I'm seriously thinking about going. This has me more upset than Hillary at the moment, and that's saying a lot. This is yet another slap in the face to his family.
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    This case has my blood boiling.
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    I didn't follow this case at all; I just remember the initial story.

    Does anyone know what kind of case the defense presented that somehow justified their actions, or created enough reasonable doubt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    I didn't follow this case at all; I just remember the initial story.

    Does anyone know what kind of case the defense presented that somehow justified their actions, or created enough reasonable doubt?
    The only thing I know is some vague stuff about how the police officer who fired first believed he was stopping Bell from driving aroudn the corner and shooting someone else in a drive by. Why did he believe that Bell was going to drive around the corner and shoot some random person in a drive-by?

    It sounds like a bunch of BS to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    The only thing I know is some vague stuff about how the police officer who fired first believed he was stopping Bell from driving aroudn the corner and shooting someone else in a drive by. Why did he believe that Bell was going to drive around the corner and shoot some random person in a drive-by?

    It sounds like a bunch of BS to me.
    That's insane.

    Beyond that, is it acceptable police protocol that, once one shot is fired, every officer present can start shooting every round they have with reckless abandon?

    Shoot first, ask questions later. Just like Bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    I didn't follow this case at all; I just remember the initial story.

    Does anyone know what kind of case the defense presented that somehow justified their actions, or created enough reasonable doubt?
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...end_to_-3.html

    The undercover detectives claim they heard Guzman threaten to grab a "gat" to settle the score with Coicou - and that they fired when Guzman reached for a gun.
    There was no gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    That's insane.

    Beyond that, is it acceptable police protocol that, once one shot is fired, every officer present can start shooting every round they have with reckless abandon?

    Shoot first, ask questions later. Just like Bush.
    There were no shots fired, no one had a gun. These pigs are just murderers with a badge.

    Conclusion: If you are a homocidal maniac and you don't want to go to jail, just join the NYPD we're you can get benefits and protection under the law.
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