Fellow Christians, what does this passage mean to you?

"Originally, all Unitarians were Christians who did not believe in the Holy Trinity of God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost). Instead, they believed in the unity, or single aspect, of God. Although people have held Unitarian beliefs since the time of Jesus’s death, religious groups did not form around these ideas until the mid-1500s in Transylvania and the 1600s in England. Religious authorities at this time saw early Unitarians as heretics and often persecuted them. Important figures from this period include John Biddle, Francis David, Michael Servetus, King John Sigismund and Faustus Socinus.
 
"American Unitarianism went through many changes over the next 150 years, from the introduction of transcendentalist thought in the mid-1800s and humanist thought in the early 1930s. These contributed to the evolution of American Unitarianism into a more broad and flexible faith."
 
Our Unitarian Universalist faith has evolved through a long history, with theological origins in European Christian traditions. Today Unitarian Universalism is a non-creedal faith which allows individual Unitarian Universalists the freedom to search for truth on many paths. While our congregations uphold shared principles, individual Unitarian Universalists may discern their own beliefs about spiritual, ethical, and theological issues.http://www.uua.org/beliefs/history/6903.shtml
 
PROOF that just because everyone else says I am wrong, does not mean I am wrong.
 
So what do you belive? You certantly seem to be backing off from your position that Catholics are not Christians, you are changing it to some Christians belive Catholics are not Christians....

People are so ignorant, Christianity was nothing but Catholic until the schisms which separated East from West and then with Luther, Protestant from Catholic.
 
1) She did not.
2) She is ONE, how many Fathers are there?

They only people Mother Teresa held authority was over her order of nuns. She did not have any other influence in the church. She had a great influence over others because of her devotion to the poor. She is a very interesting figure, she had a side to her the public did not see. She had a great deal of doubt and struggled with her faith constantly. She questioned a loving God who would let people suffer to the degree that she saw them suffer.
 
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Yes, some of the old timers want to stick to tradition. There are, like in any large group, the extremists who will say stupid things like you mentioned regarding submitting. But the Church itself does not teach that. The majority do not believe it. Most of it is fighting changing TRADITION... like alter boys, readers, Eucharistic ministers, Priests all being men. Over time that has changed. Pope John Paul II made it very clear where the Church stands.

Their stance on birth control is backwards in my opinion as well. But that applies to both men and women.

I can't speak to the situation in Alaska other than in speculation. But again, I would think it is not a thought of 'women are good enough' but more of a 'I want what I grew up with'. Obviously this is just a guess.


Change is coming, but it is very slow. Power and control are hard to give up.
 
"Originally, all Unitarians were Christians who did not believe in the Holy Trinity of God (Father, Son, and Holy Ghost).

/grins.....and that changed in the 4th Century when the Christians threw them out......because they denied the divinity of Jesus......you can bluster all you want, Unitarians cannot be Christians, by definition, because they reject the existence of a Christ.......
 
Change is coming, but it is very slow. Power and control are hard to give up.

Like you stated, it probably depends on the Priest in charge of the parish or at the diocese level. Where I grew up, women were allowed to be readers, eucharistic ministers and girls were allowed to serve. This was in the 80's. That said, the Priest was mentored by my great uncle (who was a Priest). My grandmother (his older sister) was a devout Irish Catholic woman who if most feminists today had been able to meet her, they would have said... 'holy shit, that is the toughest woman alive'.... and they would have been right. :) and she taught my great uncle just how beneficial a strong woman could be (not to mention what he learned when he didn't treat her as an equal) So I do admit I grew up in an environment where the strength of women was respected probably at a far earlier time than most parishes. Both of my grandmothers were like that, my mom to a lesser degree (she was much more of the hug it out vs. my grandmothers both preferring the backhand to get their point across), the Priests I grew up around all knew who my grandmother was (she worked for the arch diocese) and therefore always taught what Pope John Paul II taught about treating women as equals.
 
Like I said, you are full of shit. You got caught once again saying something stupid and now you wish to play it off as 'I was joking'.

Again... never said I was "joking." I made an intentionally bombastic statement, specifically because I knew it would invoke a response like yours, and it worked beautifully. I am satisfied. What I said wasn't stupid, it is true according to millions of Christians. You don't agree with them, so you are saying it's stupid. I understand.

No intelligent person believes you ditzie.

How can you know this? No intelligent people are responding to it!

You clearly don't understand what Agnostic means. Agnostic means that a person neither believes nor disbelieves in the existence of God. Agnostic does NOT mean that a person will not take a stand against ignorant bigots who make foolish comments regarding a religion they clearly do not understand. Also, my being agnostic NOW, doesn't change the fact I was raised as a Catholic and spent 25 years in the Church. So when you make stupid claims (yes, we get it... you are pretending you were joking)... then I am going to call you out on it. My not being gay will not stop me from confronting those who say stupid bigoted things about those who are. My being white will not stop me from confronting racist pieces of shit.

So you are a closet homo like you are a closet Catholic?
 
Again... never said I was "joking." I made an intentionally bombastic statement, specifically because I knew it would invoke a response like yours, and it worked beautifully. I am satisfied. What I said wasn't stupid, it is true according to millions of Christians. You don't agree with them, so you are saying it's stupid. I understand.

Right. Sure ditzie... you are a fucking idiot, we get it. 1/3 does exist.

How can you know this? No intelligent people are responding to it!

relative to you ditzie, everyone is intelligent. 1/3 does exist.

So you are a closet homo like you are a closet Catholic?

So in addition to your hatred of Catholics you are also a homophobic coward? 1/3 does exist.
 
lol....it DOES say they don't really care what people believe.....that in itself is hardly enough to qualify them as a Christian denomination......

You have an argument about it not being a Christian Church, although certantly many of its members are Christian. You were WRONG when you said that they deny the divinity of Christ. So you are changing your statment now from, they deny the divinity of Christ to they are not Christians?
 
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