Electric car drives for 100 hours non-stop. MAGAs panties getting moist.

[RB 60]

Not lying. Just not being stupid like you.

Sure some right leaning folks can make advancements too but they will still face the same attacks from others on the right who believe no advancement should be undertaken if it not already proven (see post above).

So while not everyone on the right might be that type of conservatard, almost all the people in the 'stop all advancement' camp are conservatards.

I can Venn diagram it for you if you need pictures.

Ohh! Diagram it for us, libturd (this is gonna be good ).

 

[Walt]

Imagine paying for them (including the power used by them). Imagine the horror maintaining these roads is going to be.

Once they are metered, they will be a huge income generator. In other words, the best investment you can possibly make. Anyone with a brain will beg to pay for them.

The problem here is your lack of imagination. It is hard not to make a profitable business out of this... While allowing truck and car drivers to get the cheapest energy.

 

[Walt]

I wasn't making fun of the oval track, fuckwit.....I was mocking the incredibly stupid lib'ruls who were dumb enough to fall for it........watch the silly cunt back track and pretend he never believed EV could really drive 100 hours non stop......

It would be very possible for an EV, getting electricity from an outside source, to drive for a thousand hours. 100 hours would be laughably easy.

 

[Walt]

That would be freaking cool. It would be awesome to be able to travel about the USA without ever having to stop for fuel...

FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO GETS IT!!!

Self driving cars have actually been doing well on highways. It is the more local roads that are a problem. So you will be able to drive anywhere in America, take a nap while your car is driving you and charging, and then get off on local roads to drive the last few miles with a fully powered vehicle.

BUT IT GETS BETTER!!!

Imagine trucks that deliver on their own to the closest highway offramp, where a driver drives them the last few miles to where the cargo is delivered. This would cut delivery costs by a huge amount. It would eliminate the problems of drivers shortages. It would allow the trucks to be fueled with whatever the cheapest fuel is.

 

[Walt]

the issue is that some fuckwit was stupid enough to start a thread bragging EV could now drive a hundred hours going around in circles on a road that will never be built and another fuckwit was stupid enough to not realize it........

It is possible to drive forever on a circular track, so driving 100 hours should not be a problem. That is why they made the test track circular. That allowed them to build a short track, and drive forever on it.

The circular track was apparently built. If you have some evidence it was not built, then share that with us, but your denials right now are sounding desperate, especially because you denied that you can drive for as long as you want on a circle without hitting the end.

 

[Walt]

It didn't require additional infrastructure for the most part.

The original internet required switches and routers, which had to be invented just for it. That was a huge investment. Then as it grew, the requirements grew exponentially.

In fact, the earliest vestiges of the Internet were to be found in military and university / research applications, not casual personal use.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gardner got one right. The original internet was DARPANet, and was a defense program. It was funded by the government for decades before becoming useful. We need more moon shot government programs, not less. We need government funding huge numbers of research projects that will mostly fail. The reason is the few wild successes.

I would put the earliest nationwide network that resembled something like the Internet to be the late 1950's to mid 60's SAGE and Missile Master systems of the USAF and US Army respectively.

Those were not networks in the modern sense. Their failure was they just connected two points with a phone line. There was no switching, or routing. There were no packets at all. If the line between the two points went out, there was no communication. The packet switching, as used in the internet, solved all that and created a real network. Each packet picked its own path, so if one line went out, it was quickly replaced. Also any two nodes could communicate with each other. Better yet, all nodes could communicate with all notes at the same time.

Actually, it's usually the Left that is anti-technological progress. Leftists rarely are scientists and engineers in fields where practical applications are the primary thing.

Well, that is not true. It could not be further from the truth.

The Left is anti-nuclear even though that is the only way we can get to zero carbon without impoverishing the nation and even the planet.

Reality time: Biden is pushing along nuclear development. trump would talk about pushing it along, but would quickly lose interest.

They are all for battery cars even though fuel cell technology makes far more sense and can easily be adapted to existing infrastructure.

The solution is to improve the infrastructure. The infrastructure will only improve with more demand. All of this is common sense.

You would have argued against the car, because there were few paved roads, and no gas stations.

 

[Walt]

There was no "DO NOT build out the Internet..." on anyone's part.

Reagan removed the internet from the budget proposal repeatedly. He thought it was a waste of money, and I guess to someone born in 1911, it would seem like a waste of money.

 

[QP!]

It is possible to drive forever on a circular track, so driving 100 hours should not be a problem. That is why they made the test track circular. That allowed them to build a short track, and drive forever on it.

The circular track was apparently built. If you have some evidence it was not built, then share that with us, but your denials right now are sounding desperate, especially because you denied that you can drive for as long as you want on a circle without hitting the end.

PostmodernIdiot had no clue that the circular track is what has been used to prove things out in automotive innovations since the inception of the automobile. I had to explain that to him as he thought what was learned on a circular track would not apply to a straight stretch of road.

He is one of the dumber posters on this site, which is saying something.

this was a proof of concept test. What that does not mean is that it will be applied exactly to real world situations or applied at all. They are simply testing the upper limits of results in controlled situations so they can then see how and where they can use this technology in a practical way to benefit society.

 

[QP!]

The original internet required switches and routers, which had to be invented just for it. That was a huge investment. Then as it grew, the requirements grew exponentially.



Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gardner got one right. The original internet was DARPANet, and was a defense program. It was funded by the government for decades before becoming useful. We need more moon shot government programs, not less. We need government funding huge numbers of research projects that will mostly fail. The reason is the few wild successes.




Those were not networks in the modern sense. Their failure was they just connected two points with a phone line. There was no switching, or routing. There were no packets at all. If the line between the two points went out, there was no communication. The packet switching, as used in the internet, solved all that and created a real network. Each packet picked its own path, so if one line went out, it was quickly replaced. Also any two nodes could communicate with each other. Better yet, all nodes could communicate with all notes at the same time.



Well, that is not true. It could not be further from the truth.



Reality time: Biden is pushing along nuclear development. trump would talk about pushing it along, but would quickly lose interest.



The solution is to improve the infrastructure. The infrastructure will only improve with more demand. All of this is common sense.

You would have argued against the car, because there were few paved roads, and no gas stations.

T.A Gardner is a dishonest hack who quickly leaves a thread once his stupidity is highlighted.

To argue that major advancements like the internet for its earliest iterations to the consumer friendly version we all enjoy now, from evolution to copper wires, to fibre, was not really a big deal built on what he decries as 'wish casting', is just ignorance on his part.

No one knows prior to the first iterations, if it will actually work as blueprinted and if people will use and adopt it after. What he decries as 'wish casting' as a reason to not proceed, would have prevented every major project ever developed that was not proven first. In his world you could not even build a new bridge span connecting two prior unconnected points, as that is based on a belief people will use and adopt it. It is not proven, no matter how much you believe or wish they would use it, until it is built.,

BUt that is the republiclown way. They reflexively try to shut down all forms of advancement thinking living in the past (MAGA) is preferable.


There simply is no denying that is primarily a function within Republiclown circles to an extreme extent, with no real comparable opposition on the left.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

PostmodernIdiot had no clue that the circular track is what has been used to prove things out in automotive innovations since the inception of the automobile. I had to explain that to him as he thought what was learned on a circular track would not apply to a straight stretch of road.

He is one of the dumber posters on this site, which is saying something.

this was a proof of concept test. What that does not mean is that it will be applied exactly to real world situations or applied at all. They are simply testing the upper limits of results in controlled situations so they can then see how and where they can use this technology in a practical way to benefit society.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The original internet required switches and routers, which had to be invented just for it. That was a huge investment. Then as it grew, the requirements grew exponentially.

Bullshit. The phone system and automatic switching and routers existed as early as the 1930's. The first system one might characterize as an "Internet" was the US military's SAGE and Missile Master systems. These two were integrated nationwide using dedicated phone lines, as well as microwave and radio transmission systems. Both started life in the mid 1950's.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gardner got one right. The original internet was DARPANet, and was a defense program. It was funded by the government for decades before becoming useful. We need more moon shot government programs, not less. We need government funding huge numbers of research projects that will mostly fail. The reason is the few wild successes.

Not if it's a digital, electronic clock... DARPANET was just one more iteration of something that already actually existed. Both SAGE (Semi-Automatic Ground Environment) and Missile Master predate it, and were far more extensive systems.

Those were not networks in the modern sense. Their failure was they just connected two points with a phone line. There was no switching, or routing. There were no packets at all. If the line between the two points went out, there was no communication. The packet switching, as used in the internet, solved all that and created a real network. Each packet picked its own path, so if one line went out, it was quickly replaced. Also any two nodes could communicate with each other. Better yet, all nodes could communicate with all notes at the same time.

SAGE and Missile Master were. They were real-time interactive systems that allowed the USAF and Army to coordinate the air defense of the US from Alaska to Florida.

Well, that is not true. It could not be further from the truth.

Actually it is true. The Left is very anti-technology. They selectively pick a few that they like and ignore the rest even to the extent of outlawing and stigmatizing them.

Reality time: Biden is pushing along nuclear development. trump would talk about pushing it along, but would quickly lose interest.

Why does Biden continue to hold back the nuclear energy industry?
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...nue-to-hold-back-the-nuclear-energy-industry/

Instead, Biden has offered a tiny sop to the nuclear power industry in the form of $6 billion in credit. That is miniscule compared to $3 billion for rooftop solar alone, then hundreds of millions to various solar manufacturers, etc.

The solution is to improve the infrastructure. The infrastructure will only improve with more demand. All of this is common sense.

You would have argued against the car, because there were few paved roads, and no gas stations.

No, the way forward is to do what works. Battery cars are a dead end. Fuel cells and using hydrogen or anhydrous ammonia--as two examples--makes far more sense. But these aren't being pushed.

 

[Walt]

Bullshit. The phone system and automatic switching and routers existed as early as the 1930's.

The phone system switches phone calls, not packets. I am not going to waste my time explaining the difference to you.

The first system one might characterize as an "Internet" was the US military's SAGE and Missile Master systems.

No, the internet was invented as a correction to the many flaws of SAGE.

 

[Walt]

T.A Gardner is a dishonest hack who quickly leaves a thread once his stupidity is highlighted.

To argue that major advancements like the internet for its earliest iterations to the consumer friendly version we all enjoy now, from evolution to copper wires, to fibre, was not really a big deal built on what he decries as 'wish casting', is just ignorance on his part.

No one knows prior to the first iterations, if it will actually work as blueprinted and if people will use and adopt it after. What he decries as 'wish casting' as a reason to not proceed, would have prevented every major project ever developed that was not proven first. In his world you could not even build a new bridge span connecting two prior unconnected points, as that is based on a belief people will use and adopt it. It is not proven, no matter how much you believe or wish they would use it, until it is built.,

BUt that is the republiclown way. They reflexively try to shut down all forms of advancement thinking living in the past (MAGA) is preferable.


There simply is no denying that is primarily a function within Republiclown circles to an extreme extent, with no real comparable opposition on the left.

Any amazing advancement worth trying is going to fail most of the time. That is why we try as many amazing advancements as possible. It is not a reason to try none.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The phone system switches phone calls, not packets. I am not going to waste my time explaining the difference to you.

Packets refers to how the data is transmitted, not the means of transmission. It's obvious you know nothing about these systems.

No, the internet was invented as a correction to the many flaws of SAGE.

Wrong. The Internet is a logical progression of systems like SAGE and Missile Master. Again, it's obvious you know nothing about either and how they interconnected and worked.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

It would be very possible for an EV, getting electricity from an outside source, to drive for a thousand hours. 100 hours would be laughably easy.

true......they could tow a wagon carrying a diesel generator behind them and go a thousand hours easily.......

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The phone system switches phone calls, not packets. I am not going to waste my time explaining the difference to you.

No, the internet was invented as a correction to the many flaws of SAGE.

I worked for Verizon for over 20 years.
Walt, you are correct. TA Garbler is spewing bullshit again, which he tends to do when he knows he's losing a argument.

 

[Walt]

Packets refers to how the data is transmitted, not the means of transmission.

No, packets refer to how the data is being transmitted, in smaller sized packets, not the data being transmitted. A phone switch connects two locations by a constant, single line. A packet switching network is constantly figuring out how to get every individual packet from point A to point B. There is no attempt to make them all go the same way, and a single line will usually have packets from many different sources and destination going over it.

It's obvious you know nothing about these systems.

I was thinking the same about you.

Wrong. The Internet is a logical progression of systems like SAGE and Missile Master. Again, it's obvious you know nothing about either and how they interconnected and worked.

Packet switching was a huge step forward, and not a "logical progression" as you claim. SAGE was a logical progression from telephones, in that it basically placed a phone call between two points.

 

[Walt]

true......they could tow a wagon carrying a diesel generator behind them and go a thousand hours easily.......

That would be more difficult. In theory, diesel can be added to a moving vehicle, but it is not easy. While electricity is easy to add to a moving vehicle through overhead lines, and could be added through this contactless technology.

 

[Walt]

I worked for Verizon for over 20 years.
Walt, you are correct. TA Garbler is spewing bullshit again, which he tends to do when he knows he's losing a argument.

They are so confident in their lies, I pity them.

Joe brings up an interesting point, why does the alt right need lies to support their arguments? If their arguments were sound, they could support them with real facts.

 

[QP!]

Any amazing advancement worth trying is going to fail most of the time. That is why we try as many amazing advancements as possible. It is not a reason to try none.

T.A Gardner calls that wishcasting and a reason to not try anything that is not already proven.

He does not know what you say is true. That thru trial and error and belief and hope the first airplane or space mission was chased based on theory they could work when it was not yet proven. THat all sorts of other technological benefits come out of wishcasting in science and pushing the limits on what can and should be done, failure or success.


That is todays conservatard mindset. To mock any attempts to improve any technology as wrong as that improvement is not proven yet.

People like T.A. Gardner are sad and pathetic as they would be the end of innovation and think that is a good thing.