Armed Citizen Stops Shooter at Indiana Mall: GOOD GUY WITH A GUN

LV426 said:
Yes they absolutely do, they just have universal health care systems that take mental health seriously, so there's no obstacles to mentally ill people receiving care.

Just wondering, do you support universal health care that would extend mental health to every single person, regardless of their income? Or do you oppose that, thus being the impediment to solving the thing you are also complaining about?
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i'm for weeding out the crazies, the entitled, and the evil by shooting them dead if they start attacking innocents.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
yes, we know you would have preferred more dead innocents instead of a low body count in the interests of 'justice'.
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When your "hero" walked into that mall carrying a gun, he didn't know that another bad guy would do a mass shooting.

So he defied the rules posted and brought a gun into a place he wasn't allowed.

So prior to him pulling that gun and shooting the other bad guy, he was also a bad guy with a gun.

And you think that deserves praise because he just happened to draw his gun after the other guy carrying a gun already killed 3 people?
 
LV426 said:
When your "hero" walked into that mall carrying a gun, he didn't know that another bad guy would do a mass shooting.

So he defied the rules posted and brought a gun into a place he wasn't allowed.

So prior to him pulling that gun and shooting the other bad guy, he was also a bad guy with a gun.

And you think that deserves praise because he just happened to draw his gun after the other guy carrying a gun already killed 3 people?
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and it's a damn good thing that he ignored all of those postings or you'd be reading about 30 dead people, not 3.............but that's what you want to read about, isn't it?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
there's this thing called the 2nd Amendment........learn about it
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The 2nd Amendment says that as a part of a militia, you have a right to bear arms. But it doesn't explicitly say what those arms you have a right to bear are, or that it includes ammunition.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the sane people in this country consider him a good guy with a gun, so you're in the minority with all the other asylum patients
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What sane people?

Bringing a gun into a place you aren't allowed to bring it to makes you a bad guy with a gun. Period. Because you are breaking the rules with a gun in your possession. And anyone who breaks those rules would be considered a bad guy.

Bad people can do heroic things, but those heroic things do not cancel out the bad things they have also done in pursuit of the heroic things.

So bringing a gun into a mall, where they aren't allowed, is the action of a bad guy with a gun, which BOTH of those guys were because they BOTH brought guns to a place they weren't allowed.

You of all people should be mindful of that since you have said here MANY MANY TIMES that respect for the law is paramount and if there is none, deadly force is justified. THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE SAID HERE.

So was the "hero" respecting the law when he showed up to the mall with a concealed gun? HELL FUCKING NO. So that doesn't make him a good guy or a hero...it makes him a bad guy. And bad guys like that you have previously said should be shot to death.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
i'm for weeding out the crazies, the entitled, and the evil by shooting them dead if they start attacking innocents.
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OK, how do you weed out the crazies without forcing everyone to submit to a mental health evaluation?

Are you psychic like Charles Xavier?

Are you a precog like in Minority Report?

And you didn't answer the question: Do you support or oppose universal health care which would extend mental health services to everyone regardless of income? Because if you don't, then you should really shut the fuck up about mental illness.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you confuse shrieking with laughter, in other words, i'm laughing at your monumental stupidity and insanity
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But you are a bad guy with a gun because you own a gun and you make violent threats all the time.

If someone else made violent threats all the time, would you consider that person a good guy or a bad guy?

Most mass shooters make violent threats online, just like you...so maybe you are one of the crazies who needs to be weeded out BEFORE you go on a rampage.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and it's a damn good thing that he ignored all of those postings or you'd be reading about 30 dead people, not 3.............but that's what you want to read about, isn't it?
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You said earlier that if someone doesn't follow the rules or the law, that it's justified to use deadly force.

So it would be justified to use deadly force on that guy before he shot the mass shooter because he brought a gun into a place he wasn't allowed thus making him a bad guy with a gun too.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and it's a damn good thing that he ignored all of those postings or you'd be reading about 30 dead people, not 3
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My preference and wish is to see ZERO dead people, not 3.

You seem to want to focus on the hypothetical lives saved while ignoring the actual lives lost because of your gun addiction.
 
LV426 said:
You said earlier that if someone doesn't follow the rules or the law, that it's justified to use deadly force.

So it would be justified to use deadly force on that guy before he shot the mass shooter because he brought a gun into a place he wasn't allowed thus making him a bad guy with a gun too.
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I did not say that. stop lying.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I did not say that. stop lying.
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You have said repeatedly that you think it's justifiable for cops to shoot drug dealers, for instance.

So if non-violent crimes like dealing drugs are enough to earn a death sentence, then bringing a deadly weapon into a place you aren't allowed to bring it should also be enough to earn a death sentence.

You can't have it both ways.

Your "hero" didn't know that someone was going to do a mass shooting in the mall that day when he brought that gun there...so regardless of what happened afterwards, he is still a bad guy for bringing that gun there when he knew he wasn't allowed.

For you, that's enough to earn someone a death sentence...at least, that's what you've postured before...that deadly force is justified regardless of the threat so long as someone is breaking the law.
 
LV426 said:
That's not a use, and you can use air rifles and BB guns like they do in the Olympics.




You don't need an actual firearm to compete, you can compete with air rifles and BB guns.

Or bows and crossbows.




Well, in most all competitive biathalons, including the Olympics, they use air rifles, not real rifles because it's not safe to use real rifles that shoot actual bullets in that competition.

In fact, all biathalon rifles have to conform to the same standard in a competition.

Do you think Olympic athletes compete in the biathalon (shooting isn't a decathalon sport, BTW) with actual rifles????
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The bolded above isn true.

https://www.si.com/olympics/2018/02/13/biathlon-gun-rifle-caliber
 
LV426 said:
You have said repeatedly that you think it's justifiable for cops to shoot drug dealers, for instance.

So if non-violent crimes like dealing drugs are enough to earn a death sentence, then bringing a deadly weapon into a place you aren't allowed to bring it should also be enough to earn a death sentence.

You can't have it both ways.

Your "hero" didn't know that someone was going to do a mass shooting in the mall that day when he brought that gun there...so regardless of what happened afterwards, he is still a bad guy for bringing that gun there when he knew he wasn't allowed.

For you, that's enough to earn someone a death sentence...at least, that's what you've postured before...that deadly force is justified regardless of the threat so long as someone is breaking the law.
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Thought you were looking into mandatory insurance for people with guns... hmmm, what changed
 
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