Imagine that. All the evidence is showing COVID was the sniffles, not the Apocalypse


Is this proof 'life-saving' ventilators are actually deathtraps? Their success rate is appalling and medics are increasingly worried they may do more harm than good, disturbing report reveals

His face contorted with worry, a young casualty doctor sends a desperate message to the world. He has watched over the beds of hundreds of coronavirus patients, and now believes they are dying because of the very treatment that is meant to save them.

After being rushed into hospital, they are knocked out by sedatives delivered through a throat tube as a ventilator mechanically pumps their lungs to send oxygen into their bodies.

It is a standard treatment for the deadly lung infection pneumonia, and one that was first used for Covid-19 patients in China, then in Europe and now here in Britain.

Yet, in a frank YouTube video, the New York casualty doctor Cameron Kyle-Sidell has broken ranks with the medical establishment and warns it is wrong to use ventilators in this way.

He states emphatically: 'I fear this misguided treatment will lead to a tremendous amount of harm in a very short time. Covid-19 is not a pneumonia and should not be treated as one.'

His video, which has been viewed around the world, is heralding a re-think concerning the treatment of severe cases of Covid-19. In particular, experts are now asking whether the best way of saving patients might be to saturate their blood with oxygen delivered through a mask without using a ventilator.

This is the approach reportedly used during Boris Johnson's fight for life against the virus at London's St Thomas' Hospital intensive care unit. Before the pandemic took hold, Kyle-Sidell's theory might have been dismissed as maverick.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-saving-ventilators-actually-deathtraps.html

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maggot is against, masks, gloves, ventilators- in fact anything that sets him apart as a Tory-sucking capitalist asshole. He refuses to accept that there's a pandemic and calls the Boing 737MAX ' a safe aircraft '.
He doesn't accept that there's global warming either.

He's English


Haw, haw...................................haw.
 
Havana Moon said:
The first case was reported on 20th January, so to be clear it's been around for 3 months in the US. I will remind all that in 2017-18, over a period of 5 months, there were 80,000 deaths in the US alone from flu the worst in 40 years.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMvcm2010260?query=featured_home
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Whew! Good to see you back, Havana. I thought the Royal Police had come for you. You know, for all that King Rama X is an whore-fucking asshole stuff you've posted. ;)

BTW, your link doesn't say anything about "80,000 deaths" from flu. Where did you get that number? It's flawed if not a bald-faced lie. As the link below notes, it was an atypical flu season with 61,000 deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2017–2018 season was high with an estimated 45 million people getting sick with influenza, 21 million people going to a health care provider, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths from influenza (Table 1). The number of cases of influenza-associated illness that occurred during 2017-2018 was the highest since the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, when an estimated 60 million people were sick with influenza (7).

The 2017–2018 influenza season was additionally atypical in that it was severe for all ages (6). The burden of influenza and the rates of influenza-associated hospitalization are generally higher for the very young and the very old, and while this was also true during the 2017–2018 season, rates of hospitalization in all age groups were the highest seasonal rates seen since hospital-based surveillance was expanded in 2005 to include all ages (Table 2). This translated into an estimated 11 million cases of influenza in children, 28 million cases of influenza in working age adults (aged 18-64 years), and 6 million cases in adults aged 65 years and older.
 
Arminius said:
So consumed with petty rage. I enjoy you following me around reminding me how triggered and inept you are.
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That's why he's named the Triggered Lizard.

I made a GIF for his other persona (Jade Dragon):



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34,386 dead. I wonder what the numbers would be if it weren't just Democrats obeying the science by social distancing, wearing masks
and respecting stay at home orders. I wonder how low they would be if Republicans did?
 
Micawber said:
34,386 dead. I wonder what the numbers would be if it weren't just Democrats obeying the science by social distancing, wearing masks
and respecting stay at home orders. I wonder how low they would be if Republicans did?
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Ever heard of the proverb the cure being worse than the disease? Hong Flu in 1968 killed anything between 1-4 million worldwide and over 100,000 in the US. That was Type A H3N2, just like two years ago, when 80,000 died in the US. I don't remember any lockdowns back then! Maybe they should have asked the Vietnamese to have a ceasefire during the Tet Offensive or asked the Russians to suspend the Space Race?
 
Feel free to wander out and mix with your Tory friends, maggot. We're a-rootin' for ya !

Best put a condom over your head though.

Haw, haw.................................haw.
 
Havana Moon said:
The first case was reported on 20th January, so to be clear it's been around for 3 months in the US. I will remind all that in 2017-18, over a period of 5 months, there were 80,000 deaths in the US alone from flu the worst in 40 years.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMvcm2010260?query=featured_home
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It hasn't peaked here yet. As of 4/18, not quite three months, it's 12,629/mo. For 2017-18 it was 16,000/mo. Let's revisit the Covid-19 numbers after five months.

In any case my comment was snark (green font.) The RWs here think that all attempts to show the seriousness of the problem is fake news and Democrats trying to take down trump. The dead in Ecuador have nothing to do with trump.
 
christiefan915 said:
It hasn't peaked here yet. As of 4/18, not quite three months, it's 12,629/mo. For 2017-18 it was 16,000/mo. Let's revisit the Covid-19 numbers after five months.

In any case my comment was snark (green font.) The RWs here think that all attempts to show the seriousness of the problem is fake news and Democrats trying to take down trump. The dead in Ecuador have nothing to do with trump.
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Cuomo says it’s peaked, Miss Marple. The curve flattened.
 
Arminius said:
I think we're all pretty clear on the answer to this question. Still waiting on a counterpoint. :laugh:

Deaths in the U.S. from the ordinary flu in the last 6 months: 24k-62k

Deaths in the U.S. from COVID since January: 30,985

Not even as bad as the ordinary flu...and we were told the sky was falling. :thinking:

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Here's your counterpoint. If we use the highest number, 62K, for ordinary flu deaths it would be 10,333/month. As of today, approximately 3 months, there are 37,889 Covid deaths which works out to 12,629 deaths/month.

:dealwithit:
 
Micawber said:
34,386 dead. I wonder what the numbers would be if it weren't just Democrats obeying the science by social distancing, wearing masks
and respecting stay at home orders. I wonder how low they would be if Republicans did?
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Oh they do, it's just a bunch of crazy my wants are actually Constitutional rights, maga lowlifes that are causing problems.
 
christiefan915 said:
Here's your counterpoint. If we use the highest number, 62K, for ordinary flu deaths it would be 10,333/month. As of today, approximately 3 months, there are 37,889 Covid deaths which works out to 12,629 deaths/month.

:dealwithit:
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Oh God!
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Never, ever use logic or math with a RW nut job. It doesn't work!

You and I both know that when the death totals go over the number of flu deaths they'll all claim they never said it wouldn't.
 
Arminius said:
From the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System, total U.S. deaths for March are DOWN 10% from the prior four years in a row. How does that happen if the sky is falling and we're all going to die?
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