Death by Corona numbers explode to 61

[Dutch Uncle]

Self portrait, Uncle Dutch?

I'd try to explain it to you, but since you are obviously on the dim side of "too much inbreeding", it'd be a waste of time.

 

[TOP]

Self portrait, Uncle Dutch?

Indeed

 

[Earl]

I'd try to explain it to you, but since you are obviously on the dim side of "too much inbreeding", it'd be a waste of time.

So, it is a self portrait, Uncle Dutch.

You could have just said so.

A result of too much inbreeding?

 

[Earl]

Indeed

Uncle Dutch is precious...simply precious.

 

[Darth Omar]

Get a clue. That's Fox's Dr. Baden says you're wrong.

The seasonal flu death toll probably averages 20-30 thousand—depending on how the deaths are recorded. Cause of death can be judgement call in many instances—particularly, when it involves multiple comorbid factors. But nobody pays much attention to seasonal flu numbers till they start to get up in the 40,000 range or higher. And nobody pays much attention to how they are recorded. And it certainly isn’t a political issue.

Go ahead, take a stab at it. Or continue spinning.

 

[Earl]

Your time to shine, Uncle Dutch...or not.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The seasonal flu death toll probably averages 20-30 thousand—depending on how the deaths are recorded. Cause of death can be judgement call in many instances—particularly, when it involves multiple comorbid factors. But nobody pays much attention to seasonal flu numbers till they start to get up in the 40,000 range or higher. And nobody pays much attention to how they are recorded. And it certainly isn’t a political issue.

Go ahead, take a stab at it. Or continue spinning.

When the numbers exceed your estimates Mr. "I'm a healthcare worker", then what will be your excuse? Will you stick with your claim that tens of thousands of those deaths were actually heart attacks and cancer? Dr. Baden on Fox News understands the facts, you do not.

The fact remains that far Righties like yourself are science-deniers. You continue to claim there is a conspiracy even after Trump himself admits this is pandemic.

The far Right doesn't care....unless it happens to them. They'll keep playing the "more people died of the flu" tune until the numbers exceed flu deaths then they'll change their song to some other deflection.

It wasn't that long ago when it was "37,000 flu deaths" but when the COVID-19 deaths started racking up, they changed it to "67,000" deaths, which is the high end of suspected flu deaths last year as noted below. Not the low end or even the middle, but the high end.

In short, don't expect honesty much less a scientific response. They'll spin whatever tale Trump wants them to tell.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. This burden was similar to estimated burden during the 2012–2013 influenza season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...ronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu
Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 127,601 deaths reported worldwide; 26,059 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 15, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, people do not have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working on estimating the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be higher than that of most strains of the flu.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello domer76,

They follow Trump’s lead. It’s all about desperately finding a scapegoat to avoid responsibility.

Blame the Chinese
Blame WHO
Blame the governors
Blame New York

The president must never be blamed for anything bad - he is a Republican. Republicans never make mistakes. Republicans are perfect. If you don't think so just ask the president. He will tell you how great he is. He loves to talk about himself. He is number one on FB, he bragged during a forced televised White House reelection rally.

 

[Earl]

Hello domer76,



The president must never be blamed for anything bad - he is a Republican. Republicans never make mistakes. Republicans are perfect. If you don't think so just ask the president. He will tell you how great he is. He loves to talk about himself. He is number one on FB, he bragged during a forced televised White House reelection rally.

Will you be cheering tie economic loss to millions of Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain?

Again?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cypress,

Almost 40 thousand dead in four weeks does not sound like the common cold to me. I am surprised Fox and jpp conservatives tried to make that analogy. If I was not a charitable person, I might think rightwingers were willfully lying to me!

Yeah, right?

The flu takes the whole season to accrue those numbers.

If we are closing in on 40K now, how many deaths will there be when this is finally done?

Vote the president out by mail before November 3rd. Save America from the exploding ego.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Well Professor, Doc Birx is on record saying COVID deaths are recorded differently than flu deaths. They’re going as far as to label ‘probable COVID death’. If a patient was probably going to expire in ten days, regardless of any other factor, but they caught a cold that went into a secondary pneumonia, do they record that as a ‘cold death’? A ‘cold-related’ death, maybe?

Why is it necessary record COVID deaths by a different metric? If someone tests positive for COVID but falls in front of a bull dozer, is that a COVID death, too?

What exactly should be done, is open parts of the damn country up before we plunge into a full blown Depression.

'Lives be damned. WE NEED MONEY!'

Just one question.

What good is money to dead people?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello domer76,

COVID deaths have been undercounted.

Washington Post:

“The covid-19 death toll is widely believed to be an undercount because testing has been severely limited. Some states add “probable" covid-19 deaths in their count because, though the deceased was never tested, their symptoms lined up and they were exposed to the novel coronavirus. Other states have refused to add anyone to the toll who wasn't tested”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...a84ae0-7991-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html

Thank you.

ie, testing kits are in such short supply they are not going to waste them on the already dead.

That explains the number of deaths marked as 'probably covid-19 caused.'

If we had ample testing capabilities we would know.

But WE STILL DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE TESTING CAPABILITY.

The prez could have ordered the country to ramp up capability back in January, when he limited travel from China, but he didn't, because he is not a good leader. He was more worried about the stock market, and didn't want to 'scare people.'

Well, Misson Accomplished. Dead people never get scared.

 

[TOP]

Uncle Dutch is precious...simply precious.

#GottaLoveSocksAndFriends
Especially when they just give up trying to pretend to be someone else

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Micawber,

I think they count those similarly. If you had flu and died in the hospital with flu you died "of flu"

This wouldn't be a problem for anyone not trying to cover Trump's wide ass and tiny dick from public scrutiny.

The conned are simply going to look for any little 'out' and run with it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Micawber,
The conned are simply going to look for any little 'out' and run with it.

Some, indeed, are like lemmings following the conspiracy theory that this "fake virus" is being deliberately over-counted in the numbers of deaths to unseat Trump in November. No doubt all of Europe and Asia are in on the conspiracy against Donnie Trump.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

#GottaLoveSocksAndFriends
Especially when they just give up trying to pretend to be someone else

You never said whose sock I'm supposed to be much less posted links proving it. Not enough Jack in you yet?

How many sock puppets have you had or still have, Priceless?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

It’s ‘special’ relative to how they count seasonal flu deaths. Take a stab at the death toll from seasonal flu if flu deaths were recorded as ‘liberally’. Take a guess at it.

Continue spinning.

= Trying desperately to live down the most embarrassing thread title of all time.

 

[TOP]

You never said whose sock I'm supposed to be much less posted links proving it. Not enough Jack in you yet?

How many sock puppets have you had or still have, Priceless?

Priceless, indeed....

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Some, indeed, are like lemmings following the conspiracy theory that this "fake virus" is being deliberately over-counted in the numbers of deaths to unseat Trump in November. No doubt all of Europe and Asia are in on the conspiracy against Donnie Trump.

I am kind of shocked they are not blaming the 'hype' of covid news on the 'deep state.'

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You never said whose sock I'm supposed to be much less posted links proving it. Not enough Jack in you yet?

How many sock puppets have you had or still have, Priceless?

Priceless, indeed....

Yeah, I didn't expect you would give an honest answer. It's not your ability to do so which detracts from your claim of being a teacher. How could any school hire, at least for long, someone who lies about others?