China Lied About Coronavirus, Putting World in Jeopardy, U.S. Intelligence Agents Say

Frank Apisa said:
China was wrong.

Trump has been much worse.

He is a disaster...with ignorant people supporting him.
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China was wrong ?? China is a murderous actor. So you now support Trump being an "ignorant person?"
You're partisanship is disgusting -blind hate of Trump and dismissal of China
 
Frank Apisa said:
Are you saying you think I was wrong when I said that Trump lied...and was wrong...during his handling of the issue????

C'mon, Darth.

By now, everyone (including his most ardent supporters) knows that the man lies almost every time he speaks. And as for "wrong"...well, I'm waiting for him to get something right.
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For starters, no president was going to ‘handle this’ in a way that would make a bit of difference with what’s going on in NYC.

Speaking of NYC, why is DeBlasio chopped liver, Frank? Isn’t he, and not Donald Trump, primarily responsible for NYC. Why didn’t DeBlasio act sooner?

Frankly, Frank, I’m beyond sick of scapegoating Trump for every thing that comes down the pike. China is responsible for this shit.

And here’s a clue: tens of millions of independent voters can see it because it’s as plain as the nose on their faces.

If you want to make everything about the next damned election—take the clue.
 
anatta said:
much too late for that.
We should have played the "Russia card" (like Nixon's "China card") before Russian Crimean annexation.

as I have written extensively; John McCain and Vicky Nuland ( Asian Desk in the Obama State Dept) were on the ground in Kyiv during the Ukraine Euromaidan .

They made damn sure a protest became a full scale revolution - and then Poroshenko threatened Sevastopol lease.
Which forced Putin to annex Crimea....and here we are..in the Black Sea defending Ukraine! and a proxy war in Donbass!
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That is problematic but couldn’t the Crimea be part of the negotiations?

I know that the Russian-American alliance will probably never happen but it would certainly end China’s plans to dominate the world.
 
Frank Apisa said:
????

What does this have to do with China and Trump being liars?
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The only things the Reichtards have left -- deflection and dishonesty.

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RB 60 said:
Good morning Frank :)

I see you're in another fine mood, blaming Trump for this virus, as usual.
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Morning, RB.

At no point have I ever blamed Trump for this virus...not here or at any other forum where I post.

Why are you saying something like that?


This country will not become "the major disaster" unless people adopt your "philosophy" and cry instead of getting back on track.
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If Trump continues to handle this problem the way he has been handling it...it is my opinion that we will become the nation most impacted by this pandemic.

I hope I am wrong. We will see.

If this China Virus goes away by mid summer, we'll be fine.
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Using "China virus" is beneath you, I think. Although I may be wrong on that.

In any case, I doubt we will "be fine" no matter what. The world will not be fine. This is a new story altogether. We've all got to get our heads wrapped around that. New protocols have got to be put into place to handle surprises like this...and fucking morons like Trump cannot be allowed to simply eliminate them because of hunches. Morons like him seldom have decent hunches.
 
Earl said:
That is problematic but couldn’t the Crimea be part of the negotiations?

I know that the Russian-American alliance will probably never happen but it would certainly end China’s plans to dominate the world.
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Crimea has to stay in Russian hands because of the access to Sevastopol and the new Kerch Strait bridge.
we could negotiate with removing the sanctions, in return for ending the war in Donbass.
However negotiations are already taking place.
Normandy Format talks https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...scalation-dampens-hopes-for-peace-in-ukraine/

But we are way down the road. US/Russian relations can maybe get back to one of more cooperation.
but it's going to take a pullback from NATO -and the eastern European States will squeal like a stuck pig if we do.
Trump has to cut thru all this,and the US Congress and bureaucrats will give him a hard time about it
 
anatta said:
China was wrong ?? China is a murderous actor. So you now support Trump being an "ignorant person?"
You're partisanship is disgusting -blind hate of Trump and dismissal of China
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Trump is a much greater threat to our Republic...than China will ever be.

In fact, Trumps ignorant supporters are a much greater threat to our Republic than China will ever be.
 
Darth Omar said:
For starters, no president was going to ‘handle this’ in a way that would make a bit of difference with what’s going on in NYC.

Speaking of NYC, why is DeBlasio chopped liver, Frank? Isn’t he, and not Donald Trump, primarily responsible for NYC. Why didn’t DeBlasio act sooner?

Frankly, Frank, I’m beyond sick of scapegoating Trump for every thing that comes down the pike. China is responsible for this shit.

And here’s a clue: tens of millions of independent voters can see it because it’s as plain as the nose on their faces.

If you want to make everything about the next damned election—take the clue.
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Well, since you did not answer the question, I'll give it a second shot:

Are you saying you think I was wrong when I said that Trump lied...and was wrong...during his handling of the issue????
 
Earl said:
Saving American lives by cutting off the Chinese virus brought to this country by the Chinese did a great deal of good,Mujer de Buho.
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Well before the first confirmed COVID test in January in Seattle, tens of thousands of Chinese nationals were coming into the country, from Wuhan, while China was trying to do ‘damage control’.

No one was going to prevent this. The travel banned helped, but nothing and no one was going to stop this because the Chinese government lied.

Not even The Obama would have stopped it. It’s exactly that simple.
 
anatta said:
Crimea has to stay in Russian hands because of the access to Sevastopol and the new Kerch Striat bridge.
we could negotiate with removing the sanctions, in rerturn for ending the war in Donbass.
However negotiations are already taking place. Normandy Format talks https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blo...scalation-dampens-hopes-for-peace-in-ukraine/

But we are way down the road. US/Russian relations can maybe get back to one of more cooperation
but it's going to take a pullback from NATO -and the eastern European States will squeal like a stuck pig if we do.
Trump has to cut thru all this,and the US Congress and bureaucrats will give him a gard time about it
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It's important to remember that the Crimea was part of Russia, and was transferred to the Ukraine on the fiat of a USSR boss without consulting its inhabitants, who give every indication of being majority Russian.
 
Earl said:
Saving American lives by cutting off the Chinese virus brought to this country by the Chinese did a great deal of good, Mujer de Buho.
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The Trump administration has handled this situation just about as badly as possible. They could not have been more incompetent if they had tried.

When this is all over...America will be shown to be the nation that got hit the hardest...and suffered the most damage...because of the Trump administration incompetence.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well before the first confirmed COVID test in January in Seattle, tens of thousands of Chinese nationals were coming into the country, from Wuhan, while China was trying to do ‘damage control’.

No one was going to prevent this. The travel banned helped, but nothing and no one was going to stop this because the Chinese government lied.

Not even The Obama would have stopped it. It’s exactly that simple.
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The Chinese travel ban did what it did, which lowered the sources of the people with the Chinese virus.

Of course you are right, if the Chinese had not lied (proven by several intelligence sources from several countries) the virus would not have spread as quickly.

The blame is rightly on the Chinese who never tell the truth.
 
Penderyn said:
It's important to remember that the Crimea was part of Russia, and was transferred to the Ukraine on the fiat of a USSR boss without consulting its inhabitants, who give every indication of being majority Russian.
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yes of course. Khrushchev's gift, but that has little relevance now ( except Crimea is majority Russian)
 
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Mar 24, 2020 - Some six in 10 Americans approve of the job Donald Trump is doing to combat the coronavirus crisis, pushing the president's approval rating ...

“ Some six in 10 Americans approve of the job Donald Trump is doing to combat the coronavirus crisis, pushing the president’s approval rating – 49% - to the highest of his presidency, according to a poll released Tuesday by Gallup.

Trump’s gains come as his standing has improved among Democrats and independents amid the viral outbreak, which has killed more than 660 people even as the nation has adopted strict rules limiting public gatherings. Trump’s job approval numbers are up 6 points among Democrats and 8 points among independents, according to the survey.”
 
China Lied About Coronavirus, Putting World in Jeopardy, U.S. Intelligence Agents Say

It is depressing to see the trumpf-propagandists at their usual posturing and muckchucking when the world and its people are suffering, but par for the course, I suppose. Contemptible though.
 
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