If you're not a health expert

"In one tweet, Trump misleadingly claimed that it “took 6 months for President Obama to declare a National Emergency” for the H1N1 “swine flu” outbreak that “killed 12,000 Americans.” It’s true that Obama didn’t declare a national emergency for six months, but that ignores several other steps the administration took, including declaring a public health emergency the same month that the novel H1N1 infections were first reported.

At the time of the tweet, Trump had not yet declared a national emergency for COVID-19.

On April 15, 2009, the first infection was identified in California, according to the CDC, and less than two weeks later, on April 26, 2009, the Obama administration declared a public health emergency. The day before, on April 25, the World Health Organization had declared a public health emergency.

Dr. Richard Besser, then-acting director of the CDC, confirmed to the press on the day of the U.S. declaration that there were 20 cases of H1N1 in the U.S., and that “all of the individuals in this country who have been identified as cases have recovered.”

The same day — April 26 — the CDC began releasing antiviral drugs to treat the H1N1 flu, and two days later, the FDA approved a new CDC test for the disease, according to a CDC timeline on the pandemic.

On April 30, 2009, two days after the public health emergency declaration, Obama formally asked Congress for $1.5 billion to fight the outbreak, and later asked for nearly $9 billion, according a September 2009 Congressional Research Service report. On June 26, 2009, Obama signed Congress’ supplemental appropriation bill that included $7.7 billion for the outbreak. The U.S. public health emergency was renewed twice — on July 24, 2009, and Oct. 1, 2009.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-spin/
 
The data thus far by the World Health Organization says 132,000 infected globally with 5,000 deaths. Compared with all flu strains millions infected and 30,000 to 60,000 deaths per year since 2010. That suggest that this virus is not worse than the flu we have drugs for. BTW that comes from the people who's job it is to know this stuff.
Give it more time. And remember so far we don't have drugs to fight this virus like we do for Flu. The R factor for this is worse than flu. If we don't try to slow the person to person transmission this could theoretically double in cases every 4 to 5 days. That number gets HUGE very fast.


And you are comparing Global numbers and US numbers , There are many more than 60 K flu deaths per year GLOBALLY. We have had 5 K COVID19 deaths in 2 months globally and that is with prevention measures not seen in flu cases. Talk to me in 10 more months. In the end I personally think the death rate will be about 1% but only time and increased testing will tell.
 
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Something like 120?

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If you actually READ my comments, you would realize that it was 136 days. Trump did it in 3.

Now, dance! Dance for my amusement! Dance! :rofl2:
 
Give it more time. And remember so far we don't have drugs to fight this virus like we do for Flu. The R factor for this is worse than flu. If we don't try to slow the person to person transmission this could theoretically double in cases every 4 to 5 days. That number gets HUGE very fast.

That's why closing the borders to travelers from hotspots was so important, yet many liberals opposed doing so and are still claiming it was "racist" and xenophobic."
 
If the death rate was 1%, it would still be an order of magnitude deadlier than flu (for which, in any case, we have vaccines).

But pick whatever figure you like; I've had enough of your quibbling.

I have a Mega Lottery ticket that has three times the probability of being a winner than a normal ticket—and I will sell it to you for $30.

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No, it’s true, AOC and many other Democrats want open borders...and the abolishment of ICE, Miss Marple.

“AOC Says Living in the US Is a Human Right – Calls for ‘Lifelong’ Reparations for Illegals

By Pluralist | Jul 23, 2019



Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seemed to advocate “open borders” during a town hall Saturday, suggesting that living in the United States is a human right.

Speaking to constituents in Queens, the New York Democrat characterized immigration as a form of “liberation.”
 
I think you don't remember. I already posted a timeline of Obama's responses to it.

Btw, do you remember any repubs criticizing him for his actions?

We lost 12,000 lives to H1N1 under Obama and I recall little about it, actually.

I will never forget the COVID Panic of 2020. Neither will a lot of people. The virus has been in the country since December and I see we’re up to 55 deaths. Think we’ll ‘get there’?
 
I have a Mega Lottery ticket that has three times the probability of being a winner than a normal ticket—and I will sell it to you for $30. PM me for details.

Silence! You have not been certified as an "expert" by little Thingy! You will not speak!
 
Or you haven't studied viruses or illness or pandemics thoroughly & extensively: please stop.

You don't know anything. Even people who study this don't know much. It's "novel"...remember?

Stop w/ the "the flu is worse!" and "look at the swine flu!" and "it'll go away when spring comes like everything else!"

Just stop. You don't know anything. I don't either. No one really does.

It will go away with the changing of the season, idiot.
 
Um...Miss Marple...

The New Revolution II - Dem Rep Ilhan Omar ... - Facebookwww.facebook.com › TheNewRevolutionII › videos › dem-rep-ilhan-o...
Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar reacted to President ... May 19, 2019 · ... Trump's new merit-based immigration plan by doubling-down on her calls to abolish ICE. ... all inhumane deportation and detention programs,” Omar said ( video below). ... Dem. Ayanna Pressley Accuses Republicans of Spreading Racism by ...
 

She did not say "we want open borders." Start at 0:50.


Regarding ICE, is she wrong?

Ocasio-Cortez campaign website: The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency was created in 2003, in the same suite of post-9/11 legislation as the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. Its founding was part of an unchecked expansion of executive powers that led to the widespread erosion of Americans’ civil rights. Unlike prior immigration enforcement under the INS, ICE operates outside the scope of the Department of Justice and is unaccountable to our nation’s standards of due process.

As overseen by the Trump administration, ICE operates with virtually no accountability, ripping apart families and holding our friends and neighbors indefinitely in inhumane detention centers scattered across the United States. Alex believes that if we are to uphold civic justice, we must abolish ICE and see to it that our undocumented neighbors are treated with the dignity and respect owed to all people, regardless of citizenship status.
And as for your last bit of silliness... "I won't dance, don't ask me." :)

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