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[Damocles]

Why don't they read Section 8 that specifies how the Federal Government can support science?"

No, a conservative reading of the constitution does not show that the Feds can fund Science labs.

They have only the power to protect intellectual property and enforce scientific patents

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries

I think you're agreeing with me, on this.


I appreciate that you state you would eliminate the Federal National Park Service.

Federal park lands, are owned by all the citizens of the United States. Not by citizens of an individual state. Americans from sea to shining sea, bought, paid for, and maintained Rocky Mountain National Park. It doesnt' just belong to the citizens of Colorado.
That doesn't change that it shouldn't have been done if working within the limitations of the constitution.

And yes, I was agreeing that they are limited in how they can support science.

[DigitalDave]

Paul is the ONLY person in Congress to get a 100% rating from the John Birch Society .. which means that he agrees with them on a lot more than their narrow view of the Constitution.
http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=004474M

From the article you posted ...


So what his his denial "quite believable" .. particularly when he stated "voters would not understand my tongue-in-cheek academic writings?"

I see no quote where Ron claims them as his own. The only place I see that is the link you provided from the Austin Chronicle and the only quoted piece is the 'toungue-in-cheek' part. They don't quote him saying they were his, because he never said that.

[Damocles]

Black people are barbarians and terrorists that can be identified by the color of their skin .. why didn't he distance himself from that when it appeared in a newsletter .. one of many .. with his name on it?

It's ridiculous to suggest he'd let that go if he didn't believe it.
I believe that he was told by advisors to say as little as possible on those rather than to draw attention to them, that they believed that others would not believe that he hadn't written them regardless of the writing style differences. I also believe that he regrets following that advice.

[Cancel7]

I see no quote where Ron claims them as his own. The only place I see that is the link you provided from the Austin Chronicle and the only quoted piece is the 'toungue-in-cheek' part. They don't quote him saying they were his, because he never said that.

Can you honestly state that if you were black, you would accept this shit? Or are we just glossing over it, because it makes us feel better not to believe it?

If you were black, you'd have NO problem with what has been presented on this thread?

Ask yourself that, by yourself, not here, and give yourself an honest answer, you deserve one.

[Damocles]

I see no quote where Ron claims them as his own. The only place I see that is the link you provided from the Austin Chronicle and the only quoted piece is the 'toungue-in-cheek' part. They don't quote him saying they were his, because he never said that.
Like I said, I think the advice was to say as little as possible, not to claim or deny them and to not draw any attention to them himself. I believe he regrets taking that advice.

[evince]

How do you explain having people in your camp who think like this and then giving them the power to in essance speak for you?

[Damocles]

How do you explain having people in your camp who think like this and then giving them the power to in essance speak for you?
I don't. I will bet that they work there no more, nor did they for long afterward.

[Cypress]

Paul is the ONLY person in Congress to get a 100% rating from the John Birch Society .. which means that he agrees with them on a lot more than their narrow view of the Constitution.
http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?sig_id=004474M

From the article you posted ...


So what his his denial "quite believable" .. particularly when he stated "voters would not understand my tongue-in-cheek academic writings?"


Paul is the ONLY person in Congress to get a 100% rating from the John Birch Society

I don't like this. This is pretty freaky


So what his his denial "quite believable" .. particularly when he stated "voters would not understand my tongue-in-cheek academic writings?"

I haven't read all your links, but if this is accurate, I'm calling bullshit on this

[Cancel7]

How do you explain having people in your camp who think like this and then giving them the power to in essance speak for you?

Libertarianism can be a religious fervor, look at how some here speak of..."The Constitution" as if it were the Holy Bible and the word of God himself. (if you believe that about the bible).

It blinds them to an extent.

[Damocles]

Libertarianism can be a religious fervor, look at how some here speak of..."The Constitution" as if it were the Holy Bible and the word of God himself. (if you believe that about the bible).

It blinds them to an extent.
I actually agree with this, in a way. Often people believe in it so strongly that they take it places it shouldn't go. It is why I am not a Libertarian Party member. Well, one of the reasons. That and I am no "pure" libertarian. I am a constitutional conservative that leans libertarian.

[DigitalDave]

Paul is the ONLY person in Congress to get a 100% rating from the John Birch Society

I don't like this. This is pretty freaky


So what his his denial "quite believable" .. particularly when he stated "voters would not understand my tongue-in-cheek academic writings?"

I haven't read all your links, but if this is accurate, I'm calling bullshit on this

Dude, not trying to be a prick but that blue is killing my eyes....

But yeah, that austin chronicle link does not actually quote him saying 'my toungue-in-cheek academic writings'.

[Cancel7]

I actually agree with this, in a way. Often people believe in it so strongly that they take it places it shouldn't go. It is why I am not a Libertarian Party member. Well, one of the reasons. That and I am no "pure" libertarian. I am a constitutional conservative that leans libertarian.

Well I think of you as a liberal anyway Damo. I think RJS has the wrong "not a lefty lefty" in SuperFreak. But that's just how I prefer to think of you. There's really nothing you can do about it either. I can even put you in little outfits in my head, if I want to. Ones liberals would wear, of course. Nothing dirty, don't get alarmed BB.

[blackascoal]

I see no quote where Ron claims them as his own. The only place I see that is the link you provided from the Austin Chronicle and the only quoted piece is the 'toungue-in-cheek' part. They don't quote him saying they were his, because he never said that.

It's your choice to deny the obvious .. now deny his associations and participation with vile hate groups. The evidence of that is right in front of your face.

[Battleborne]

Well I think of you as a liberal anyway Damo. I think RJS has the wrong "not a lefty lefty" in SuperFreak. But that's just how I prefer to think of you. There's really nothing you can do about it either. I can even put you in little outfits in my head, if I want to. Ones liberals would wear, of course. Nothing dirty, don't get alarmed BB.

At what?..You and damo would make a perfect couple...textbook'Opposits' attract!:cof1:

[blackascoal]

Last year, Paul invited Chris Simcox, the founder and president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, to be the events special guest, after Tom Tancredo wouldn't show up..
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/007808.html#007808

Simcox has a criminal record. He was convicted on a federal weapons charge. He has exhibited so much violent, deranged, and irrational behavior that the courts ended his joint custody arrangement with his ex-wife for his son. His own 14 year-old daughter from his first ex-marriage, who was living with him at the time, ran away to the home of his employer and said that her father had tried to sexually molest her.

He claims he's seen Chinese troops along the Mexican border.

In a speech to the California Coalition on Immigration Reform, a hate group whose leader, Barbara Coe, routinely refers to Mexicans as "savages," Simcox offered a dire warning to his audience.

"Take heed of our weapons because we're going to defend our borders by any means necessary," he said. "There's something very fishy going on at the border. The Mexican army is driving American vehicles -- but carrying Chinese weapons. I have personally seen what I can only believe to be Chinese troops."
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/01/march-of-minutemen_18.html

What sane politician would keep such associations and expect to be the president?

[DigitalDave]

I actually agree with this, in a way. Often people believe in it so strongly that they take it places it shouldn't go. It is why I am not a Libertarian Party member. Well, one of the reasons. That and I am no "pure" libertarian. I am a constitutional conservative that leans libertarian.

QFT, I bailed from my membership role with the Libertarian Party of Ohio and actually stopped donating to them a few years back. It was when we had our county party vote that I decided I was done, had about 24 people show up and 10 of them were paranoid.... I like the idea though of smaller government and think we need some Libertarian representation in government, but I would never want a purely libertarian world.

[Cancel7]

[/B]

At what?..You and damo would make a perfect couple...textbook'Opposits' attract!:cof1:

Well, I see you've chilled out on your vacation. I give it three days, tops!

[DigitalDave]

Last year, Paul invited Chris Simcox, the founder and president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, to be the events special guest, after Tom Tancredo wouldn't show up..
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/007808.html#007808

Simcox has a criminal record. He was convicted on a federal weapons charge. He has exhibited so much violent, deranged, and irrational behavior that the courts ended his joint custody arrangement with his ex-wife for his son. His own 14 year-old daughter from his first ex-marriage, who was living with him at the time, ran away to the home of his employer and said that her father had tried to sexually molest her.

He claims he's seen Chinese troops along the Mexican border.

In a speech to the California Coalition on Immigration Reform, a hate group whose leader, Barbara Coe, routinely refers to Mexicans as "savages," Simcox offered a dire warning to his audience.

"Take heed of our weapons because we're going to defend our borders by any means necessary," he said. "There's something very fishy going on at the border. The Mexican army is driving American vehicles -- but carrying Chinese weapons. I have personally seen what I can only believe to be Chinese troops."
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/01/march-of-minutemen_18.html

What sane politician would keep such associations and expect to be the president?

He spoke to the 9/11 truthers too. Thing is, when you represent a bunch of people that dislike government, you are going to get a bunch of paranoid freaks, anarchists, people who were screwed over by government or government programs (that's me), and people who just hate taxes. You distance yourself from them and you have no base....

[blackascoal]

QFT, I bailed from my membership role with the Libertarian Party of Ohio and actually stopped donating to them a few years back. It was when we had our county party vote that I decided I was done, had about 24 people show up and 10 of them were paranoid.... I like the idea though of smaller government and think we need some Libertarian representation in government, but I would never want a purely libertarian world.


Deny his associations and participation with vile hate groups. The evidence of that is right in front of your face.

[Cancel7]

Last year, Paul invited Chris Simcox, the founder and president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, to be the events special guest, after Tom Tancredo wouldn't show up..
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/007808.html#007808

Simcox has a criminal record. He was convicted on a federal weapons charge. He has exhibited so much violent, deranged, and irrational behavior that the courts ended his joint custody arrangement with his ex-wife for his son. His own 14 year-old daughter from his first ex-marriage, who was living with him at the time, ran away to the home of his employer and said that her father had tried to sexually molest her.

He claims he's seen Chinese troops along the Mexican border.

In a speech to the California Coalition on Immigration Reform, a hate group whose leader, Barbara Coe, routinely refers to Mexicans as "savages," Simcox offered a dire warning to his audience.

"Take heed of our weapons because we're going to defend our borders by any means necessary," he said. "There's something very fishy going on at the border. The Mexican army is driving American vehicles -- but carrying Chinese weapons. I have personally seen what I can only believe to be Chinese troops."
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/01/march-of-minutemen_18.html

What sane politician would keep such associations and expect to be the president?


Oh man, these border whackos are real winners. What freaks. You see them sometimes on Dobbs' show too. And they really poison the debate. There are legit points to bring up about repressed wages, and corporations buying politicians for an endless supply of cheap labor.

Yeah, I agree, no sane person would have any part of these people.

[Battleborne]

Well, I see you've chilled out on your vacation. I give it three days, tops!



Maybe you should take a vacation! It does wonders for the mind!
;)

[blackascoal]

He spoke to the 9/11 truthers too. Thing is, when you represent a bunch of people that dislike government, you are going to get a bunch of paranoid freaks, anarchists, people who were screwed over by government or government programs (that's me), and people who just hate taxes. You distance yourself from them and you have no base....

So you're saying his base is kooks, whackos, racists, freaks, and anarchists.

I agree.

[DigitalDave]

Deny his associations and participation with vile hate groups. The evidence of that is right in front of your face.

He already stated that his associations with them are because of his political views on the constitution.

[DigitalDave]

So you're saying his base is kooks, whackos, racists, freaks, and anarchists.

I agree.

Nice how you parsed that list to not include those who are for less tax and those who were screwed over by government programs..

[Cypress]

Last year, Paul invited Chris Simcox, the founder and president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, to be the events special guest, after Tom Tancredo wouldn't show up..
http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/007808.html#007808

Simcox has a criminal record. He was convicted on a federal weapons charge. He has exhibited so much violent, deranged, and irrational behavior that the courts ended his joint custody arrangement with his ex-wife for his son. His own 14 year-old daughter from his first ex-marriage, who was living with him at the time, ran away to the home of his employer and said that her father had tried to sexually molest her.

He claims he's seen Chinese troops along the Mexican border.

In a speech to the California Coalition on Immigration Reform, a hate group whose leader, Barbara Coe, routinely refers to Mexicans as "savages," Simcox offered a dire warning to his audience.

"Take heed of our weapons because we're going to defend our borders by any means necessary," he said. "There's something very fishy going on at the border. The Mexican army is driving American vehicles -- but carrying Chinese weapons. I have personally seen what I can only believe to be Chinese troops."
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2006/01/march-of-minutemen_18.html

What sane politician would keep such associations and expect to be the president?


No, you're right.

Its just crazy to pander to extremist xenophobes. Why bother? Unless these are the type of people voting for, and supporting Ron Paul in south texas. I can't really see any other reason to directly associate one's self with them.

The immigration debate can be had with rational, logical people. There's no need to involve frothing-at-the-mouth, wild-eyed lunatics.

[DigitalDave]

No, you're right.

Its just crazy to pander to extremist xenophobes. Why bother? Unless these are the type of people voting for, and supporting Ron Paul in south texas. I can't really see any other reason to directly associate one's self with them.

The immigration debate can be had with rational, logical people. There's no need to involve frothing-at-the-mouth, wild-eyed lunatics.

LOL, sounds like an LP party meeting... which is why I just decided not to participate with them anymore. Its actually the paranoid ones that participate more than the ones that are just 'leave me alone' type of libertarians. Makes it kind of hard to get serious recognition, especially when they vote for black horse candidates and beleive notoriety is ok because it gives us press.

[Damocles]

Well I think of you as a liberal anyway Damo. I think RJS has the wrong "not a lefty lefty" in SuperFreak. But that's just how I prefer to think of you. There's really nothing you can do about it either. I can even put you in little outfits in my head, if I want to. Ones liberals would wear, of course. Nothing dirty, don't get alarmed BB.
You may think of me as you wish.

[Cancel7]

You may think of me as you wish.

Ohh, chilly. I guess the "liberal" thing got to you?

[Damocles]

Ohh, chilly. I guess the "liberal" thing got to you?
I wasn't trying to be chilly. Dang. Misrepresentin'!

[Cancel7]

I wasn't trying to be chilly. Dang. Misrepresentin'!

You can't hear tone here Damo, it looked chilly, it might have sounded hot, like in the Princess Bride, when he always says "as you wish", which, see, looks chilly, but wasn't.

[China Apologist]

"These quotations became an issue during Paul's 1996 campaign for Congress. During the campaign, he declined to distance himself from the statements. But in a 2001 interview with Texas Monthly, he said he had never written or approved those words for his own newsletter. He said he failed to disavow the words during the campaign on the advice of his political advisors. "They just weren't my words," he tells me. "They got in because I wasn't always there. I didn't have total control. And I would be on vacations and things got in there that shouldn't have been."

I am reading the whole Salon interview, and I think this paragraph bears repeating, especially the part I have bolded.

He didn't disavow these disgusting, scummy, racist things said in his own newsletter (and by the way, those things are never going to be in the Darla newsletter, whether I am "on vacation" or not, so stick that BS excuse guys ok?) because his political advisers told him not to?

So, his political advisors felt that not disavowing these lowlife, racist pig comments would play better in Tex-ass, and obviously they were correct, and Mr. Integrity himself, Ron Paul went along to get along, huh?

Yeah.

They told him nobody would understand the difference between him and a ghostwriter saying them, and it'd be better just to not have them brought up again. Of course, I don't think he ever reckoned that he'd be running for pres. again.

[blackascoal]

Now that his racist background has been conclusively proven .. consider his delusional myopic libertarian beliefs that have no applicable application to the real world.

There is a serious disconnect between trying to position yourself as anti-corporatist while screaming for the wonders of the "free market" and insisting on removing all regulations, restrictions, and limits on the "free market".

Who in the hell does Paul think the free market is if not large multi-national corporations? EVERY economy in the industrailized world has a mixed economy because history has demonstrated that corporations CANNOT be trusted without government oversight.

Just more snake oil.

[China Apologist]

"He claims he's seen Chinese troops along the Mexican border. "

LOL. I wanna put that in my sig.

[China Apologist]

Don't you understand?!

Ron Paul is the teflon libertarian!

[DigitalDave]

Now that his racist background has been conclusively proven .. :rolleyes:


There is a serious disconnect between trying to position yourself as anti-corporatist while screaming for the wonders of the "free market" and insisting on removing all regulations, restrictions, and limits on the "free market".

There are two things that need to be done in order for it to be a 'free-market'.

1) End government subsidies for corporations, as well as end no-bid contracts. Quit favoring corporations!

2) Remove burdensome regulations, like Sarbanes-Oxley, that are reactionary and force people like myself to do 7.5 hours of documentation for .5 hours of programming.

[blackascoal]

Don't you understand?!

Ron Paul is the teflon libertarian!

Or so he thinks.

[blackascoal]

:rolleyes:



There are two things that need to be done in order for it to be a 'free-market'.

1) End government subsidies for corporations, as well as end no-bid contracts. Quit favoring corporations!

2) Remove burdensome regulations, like Sarbanes-Oxley, that are reactionary and force people like myself to do 7.5 hours of documentation for .5 hours of programming.

Not favoring corporations, which I agree with, does nothing to protect Americans FROM corporations. Product safety and truth in advertsing are only the tip of the iceberg in what corporations will do without controls. We don't have to guess at it .. the history of the Robber Barons is a glaring example.

Some legislation is burdensome, but that hardlt dictates that all legislation is without merit.

Bad government is bad government, but not all government is bad government.

As an Oracle DBA, documentation is a wonderful thing.

[DigitalDave]

Not favoring corporations, which I agree with, does nothing to protect Americans FROM corporations. Product safety and truth in advertsing are only the tip of the iceberg in what corporations will do without controls. We don't have to guess at it .. the history of the Robber Barons is a glaring example.

Some legislation is burdensome, but that hardlt dictates that all legislation is without merit.

Bad government is bad government, but not all government is bad government.

As an Oracle DBA, documentation is a wonderful thing.

Documenting a database Relational Scheme, Stored Procedures, expected growth, table names and keys, backup plans are all pretty important. Not only does that provide a good plan but it provides the developer (myself) the information needed to do the code required to connect and use the database efficiently.

Documenting how I recieved an email from so and so to replace a link on the website that deals with surcharge prices, not that important, but required.

[blackascoal]

Documenting a database Relational Scheme, Stored Procedures, expected growth, table names and keys, backup plans are all pretty important. Not only does that provide a good plan but it provides the developer (myself) the information needed to do the code required to connect and use the database efficiently.

Documenting how I recieved an email from so and so to replace a link on the website that deals with surcharge prices, not that important, but required.

I agree with you brother but this is one of the areas that needs addressing, not by politicians and lobbyists, who've never seen a line of code, but by experts who understand the need for checks and balances, but who also understand the built in security of IT through backups of the data and data archives. They would know it's unnecessary for the coder to waste time with such tasks.

It's always a necessary pain when you're dealing with the people's money.

[DigitalDave]

I agree with you brother but this is one of the areas that needs addressing, not by politicians and lobbyists, who've never seen a line of code, but by experts who understand the need for checks and balances, but who also understand the built in security of IT through backups of the data and data archives. They would know it's unnecessary for the coder to waste time with such tasks.

It's always a necessary pain when you're dealing with the people's money.

I think then you understand the philosophy that politicians should just stay out of it. They don't know what is/is not important and I can't tell a person in the automotive industry how to document whatever they need to document. I know you're right that we need some regulations, but they are getting rediculous and hampering production due to reactions to companies like Enron.

[AssHatZombie]

Not favoring corporations, which I agree with, does nothing to protect Americans FROM corporations. Product safety and truth in advertsing are only the tip of the iceberg in what corporations will do without controls. We don't have to guess at it .. the history of the Robber Barons is a glaring example.

Some legislation is burdensome, but that hardlt dictates that all legislation is without merit.

Bad government is bad government, but not all government is bad government.

As an Oracle DBA, documentation is a wonderful thing.

no shit.

i'm t-sql myself. the only thing I miss is %rowtype. ms has no equivalent.

t-sql as a language has become far superior to oracle. sorry to say it. But then there's still the horrid io on windows boxes in general to deal with.

[blackascoal]

no shit.

i'm t-sql myself. the only thing I miss is %rowtype. ms has no equivalent.

t-sql as a language has become far superior to oracle. sorry to say it. But then there's still the horrid io on windows boxes in general to deal with.

Oracle is not a language.

PL/SQL is a language

Oracle RDBMS is a relational database

SQL and PL/SQL are langauges used to manipulate the database

[China Apologist]

I know how to make BASIC compiler spit out "Hello World"!

[blackascoal]

I think then you understand the philosophy that politicians should just stay out of it. They don't know what is/is not important and I can't tell a person in the automotive industry how to document whatever they need to document. I know you're right that we need some regulations, but they are getting rediculous and hampering production due to reactions to companies like Enron.

I agree with you, but techies like you can't enforce the legislation. We can write it, but can't enforce it.

ENRON is exactly why mixed economies are required.

[AssHatZombie]

Oracle is not a language.

PL/SQL is a language

Oracle RDBMS is a relational database

SQL and PL/SQL are langauges used to manipulate the database

Yes. of course I was referring to pl/sql when I said oracle.
Don't be a retarded assface. I figured you would realize that when I was also mentioning t-sql, which is the database language for manipulation of sql server databases. It's become far superior to pl/sql, which I've also used in my professional career. Any meaningful comments or more unfounded condescension would be welcome.

[blackascoal]

Yes. of course I was referring to pl/sql when I said oracle.
Don't be a retarded assface. I figured you would realize that when I was also mentioning t-sql, which is the database language for manipulation of sql server databases. It's become far superior to pl/sql, which I've also used in my professional career. Any meaningful comments or more unfounded condescension would be welcome.

You're an idiot.

There was nothing condescending in my post. I was simply clarifying the distinctions. but since you want to be an asshole and engage in name-calling .. let me add that there would be no reason whatsoever to assume you were talking about PL/SQL when you mentioned Transact-SQL which is quite different and used in different environments.

Nor do I, nor any IT professional I know, believe that Transact-SQL is a better product than PL/SQL. PL/SQL is a FAR more powerful language than Transact-SQL which doesn't even support arrays. Indexes, Tables, Triggers, and Procedures all have more functionality with PL/SQL. PL/SQL, like Oracle, is designed to work on a variety of platforms, where as Transact-SQL, like SQL Server, is Windows based only.

Transact-SQL does not interpret PL/SQL stored procedures and the rules for variables, conditional processing, and parameters are very different. Thus, there is no clear migration path from PL/SQL code to Transact-SQL. Using native SQL would be better.

Transact-SQL also has more code-inherent performance problems.

You're such an asshole that one can't even have a simple conversation with you without you responding like a teenager.

[AssHatZombie]

You're an idiot.

There was nothing condescending in my post. I was simply clarifying the distinctions.

For a professional the distinctions were crystal clear. I figured you could make the leap that since I was discussing t-sql, the microsoft language, that the only logical corollary in the oracle world is pl/sql. Excuse the hell out of me for using the wrong word. It wasn't confusing anyone, however. You just wanted to mouth off and be an asshole.



but since you want to be an asshole and engage in name-calling .. let me add that there would be no reason whatsoever to assume you were talking about PL/SQL when you mentioned Transact-SQL which is quite different and used in different environments.

Nor do I, nor any IT professional I know, believe that Transact-SQL is a better product than PL/SQL. PL/SQL is a FAR more powerful language than Transact-SQL which doesn't even support arrays. Indexes, Tables, Triggers, and Procedures all have more functionality with PL/SQL. PL/SQL, like Oracle, is designed to work on a variety of platforms, where as Transact-SQL, like SQL Server, is Windows based only.

It's far superior in terms of flexibility, I'm finding.



Transact-SQL does not interpret PL/SQL stored procedures and the rules for variables, conditional processing, and parameters are very different. Thus, there is no clear migration path from PL/SQL code to Transact-SQL. Using native SQL would be better.
Why would t-sql interpret pl/sql. That's an assinine statment on the face of it. The migration path is learning both and rewrtiing one into the other. I've done this on a couple of occasions.



Transact-SQL also has more code-inherent performance problems.

You're such an asshole that one can't even have a simple conversation with you without you responding like a teenager.

Code inherent performance? That phrase doesn't even make sense. What does code inherent mean?

[blackascoal]

For a professional the distinctions were crystal clear. I figured you could make the leap that since I was discussing t-sql, the microsoft language, that the only logical corollary in the oracle world is pl/sql. Excuse the hell out of me for using the wrong word. It wasn't confusing anyone, however. You just wanted to mouth off and be an asshole.

No asswipe .. you don't know what you're talking about.


It's far superior in terms of flexibility, I'm finding.

Again asswipe .. you don't know what you're talking about for the very reasons I defined. PL/SQL is a FAR more powerful language and has FAR more functionality.

Can you manipulate Partitioned tables, External tables, Index organized tables, Object Tables, Bitmap indexes, Partitioned indexes, Function-based indexes, Domain indexes, Before Triggers, Event Triggers, Java methods, third-generation language, (3GL) routines, or Arrays with Transact-SQL?

Answer: NO

The biggest advantage of SQL Server compared to Oracle is that it's cheaper, but you get stuck with Transact-SQL which has far less functionality.


Why would t-sql interpret pl/sql. That's an assinine statment on the face of it. The migration path is learning both and rewrtiing one into the other. I've done this on a couple of occasions.

Now you've given yourself away shitstain.

MIGRATION is the process of converting data, objects, procedures, and code from legacy systems to new platforms. If your staff has to learn both systems and rewrite the code it's not MIGRATION at all. You've simply rewritten the legacy system. Not cost or time effective at all. .. Which is why Microsoft purchased DB Best, a leader in MIGRATION tools.

Thus when MIGRATING from Oracle, DB2, Informix, or Sybase, the process is easier and your staff doesn't have to learn both systems.

To infer that Transact-SQL wouldn't be a better product if it could interpret PL/SQL and call that asinine demonstrates that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Military officer, Apache Indian, astronaut, to technology specialist .. BULLSHIT.

You sir are a fraud .. and given that this thread is not about IT or frauds, this is my last word on it.

[DigitalDave]

ROFLMAO! Ok, we are showing our true nerdness now that we are fighting over t-sql and pl/sql...

[AssHatZombie]

No asswipe .. you don't know what you're talking about.



Again asswipe .. you don't know what you're talking about for the very reasons I defined. PL/SQL is a FAR more powerful language and has FAR more functionality.

Can you manipulate Partitioned tables, External tables, Index organized tables, Object Tables, Bitmap indexes, Partitioned indexes, Function-based indexes, Domain indexes, Before Triggers, Event Triggers, Java methods, third-generation language, (3GL) routines, or Arrays with Transact-SQL?

Answer: NO

The biggest advantage of SQL Server compared to Oracle is that it's cheaper, but you get stuck with Transact-SQL which has far less functionality.



Now you've given yourself away shitstain.

MIGRATION is the process of converting data, objects, procedures, and code from legacy systems to new platforms. If your staff has to learn both systems and rewrite the code it's not MIGRATION at all. You've simply rewritten the legacy system. Not cost or time effective at all. .. Which is why Microsoft purchased DB Best, a leader in MIGRATION tools.

Thus when MIGRATING from Oracle, DB2, Informix, or Sybase, the process is easier and your staff doesn't have to learn both systems.

To infer that Transact-SQL wouldn't be a better product if it could interpret PL/SQL and call that asinine demonstrates that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Military officer, Apache Indian, astronaut, to technology specialist .. BULLSHIT.

You sir are a fraud .. and given that this thread is not about IT or frauds, this is my last word on it.


You're probably just unaware of new developments in t-sql.

You were the one who even brought up the notion of the t-sql interpreter running pl/sql. Chastise yourself, nimrod.

[Damocles]

Wow, a geekfight!

:corn:

[blackascoal]

You're probably just unaware of new developments in t-sql.

You were the one who even brought up the notion of the t-sql interpreter running pl/sql. Chastise yourself, nimrod.

NO .. you're the one who started the name-calling.

This could have been a civil conversation.

[AssHatZombie]

NO .. you're the one who started the name-calling.

This could have been a civil conversation.

I'm sure you're just full of regret over what might have been.

[DigitalDave]

Wow, a geekfight!

:corn:

LOL, I quickly removed myself from that conversation cause I know how serious they can get.

[blackascoal]

I'm sure you're just full of regret over what might have been.


Regret?

Not hardly.

Validated is what I am.

I already knew you were incapable of civil conversation.

[AssHatZombie]

Regret?

Not hardly.

Validated is what I am.

I already knew you were incapable of civil conversation.

Validated? How long has your car been here? We don't validate. You've merely been loitering.

[Professor Baxter]

Paul supporters aren't too keen on reality, but no neoconservative forced Paul to PARTICIPATE with some of the most vile hate groups on the planet ,, try denying that.

And in fact, you're in need of a lot of support .. spam only takes you so far.

Your candidate is going backwards in some polls and is stuck between 0-2% in all scientific polls .. try denying that.

Oh hell yes, you're in need of a lot of support.

That Ron Paul "Revolution" amounts to nothing more than spam and is less than a whimper of a revolution. If he's blowing up on the internet as Paul supporters claim .. where is the money? ... 2.3 million is peanuts, pocket change in a presidential election. Some candidates running for mayor collect more money than that and almost every candidate running for the Senate does. Where is the money?

Howard Dean collected millions from the internet and Obama has collected even more millions than Dean from the internet. Why isn't your "horde" of Paul supporters sending a lot more money? Could it be that they simple aren't there?

Real candidates have thousands of people show up to hear them speak at campaign stops .. sometimes it's tens of thousands. Paul gets a few hundred and if 600 show up Ronbots are rushing to the internet to declare glorious victory.

His racist background, delusional politics, and vapid legislative record have caught up to him and he's already reached his peak of support. People like myself who are actively working against Paul are winning this battle. All we need do is present the facts and evidence and others will make up their own minds.

Low to non-existent poll numbers, measly fundraising, relatively small crowds.

Those are the realities. Perhaps you can claim this is all false as well and hope it goes away .. but just like his racist background .. it won't.


This is an example of what BACkpedal is running from and lying about.

[Skeleton Jelly]

elaborate please, i think i missed something.

[Professor Baxter]

BAC claims he was right on Paul and his support. He claims his predictions have proven correct. They have not.