Cellphone Cancer Warning

[LadyT]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/23/cancer.cell.phones.ap/index.html

I'm willing to bet that all of the research that they will put into this should grant the scientific community the "No $hit Sherlock" award of the decade.

[Damocles]

This will hack off the cell phone companies who are making phones for kids. My daughters constantly beg me for one every time I'm in the cell phone shop. Thankfully that only happens about once per year.

[Chapdog]

some things are just blatantly obvious and people refuse to accept them without some perfect smoking gun evidence. Some of these things are

1) Global warming
2) Cellphone dangers
3) smoking risks (finally proven)
4) vaccine dangers
5) list goes on and on

[ib1yysguy]

Vaccine dangers. People who go and don't get their kids vaccinated because of this stupid idea deserve to catch whatever diseases they're not protecting their kids from.

[Chapdog]

Vaccine dangers. People who go and don't get their kids vaccinated because of this stupid idea deserve to catch whatever diseases they're not protecting their kids from.

like the flu or chickenpox? ok im fine with that.

[ib1yysguy]

like the flu or chickenpox? ok im fine with that.

AIDS. If there was a vaccine.

[Chapdog]

i dont have a problem with risking for a deadly disease but for the flu or chickenpox type category give me a break. its a pharmaceutical money making scheme to the point that some state are forcing them by law. Your support of that is similar to tops support of big oil. are u an employee of Merck or something?

[ib1yysguy]

i dont have a problem with risking for a deadly disease but for the flu or chickenpox type category give me a break. its a pharmaceutical money making scheme to the point that some state are forcing them by law. Your support of that is similar to tops support of big oil. are u an employee of Merck or something?

No, but I do make drugs for a living.

Honestly. They're required by law for kids who attend public schools to keep disease from spreading. That's the way it should be.

[ib1yysguy]

Polio, small pox, mumps, measles. A pox on you.

[uscitizen]

And our govt gave the vaccine companies immunity from defective products liability a few years back.

Just like they gave verizon immunity from illegal information disclosure.

And they will give them immunity from cell phone liabliity as well..

[LadyT]

Vaccine dangers. People who go and don't get their kids vaccinated because of this stupid idea deserve to catch whatever diseases they're not protecting their kids from.

There's no effin' way I'd let my child be filled up the amount of vaccines that they are giving young kids today. Especially for vaccines that allegedly prevent illnesses that aren't deadly. Forcing them to get something like a flu vaccine or HPV vaccine when they are young and not at risk is stupid on its face.

[uscitizen]

I have never had a flu vaccine.


The pox vaccines might not be so bad since the pox seems to be linked to shingles later in life. Very bad stuff.

[uscitizen]

Btw shared diseases among children greatly increase costs. Even if not bad a DR visit is required for School absences here now.
How much does that boost medical costs. And 20% of children here are on medicaid. so who pays ?

[LadyT]

I have never had a flu vaccine.


The pox vaccines might not be so bad since the pox seems to be linked to shingles later in life. Very bad stuff.

I'd be comfortable with spreading them out more and giving them some of the non essentials later on once their nervous system is more developed. Kids are getting like twice the vaccines by half the age as they used to and we're seeing dramatic increases in autistism cases.

For me, the writing is on the wall, if people want to be naysayers and put their heads in the sand and wait for researchers to be able to prove the obvious then by all means, but I've been sharing my fears about cell phones for years and this another situation. The proof is written on the walls.

[uscitizen]

The jesus phone causes cancer. How ironic.

[ib1yysguy]

I'd be comfortable with spreading them out more and giving them some of the non essentials later on once their nervous system is more developed. Kids are getting like twice the vaccines by half the age as they used to and we're seeing dramatic increases in autistism cases.

For me, the writing is on the wall, if people want to be naysayers and put their heads in the sand and wait for researchers to be able to prove the obvious then by all means, but I've been sharing my fears about cell phones for years and this another situation. The proof is written on the walls.

We're also seeing a sharp rise in nationalism. Do vaccines cause nationalism?

[uscitizen]

I think dopamine is the vaccine to cure Republicanism.

Ohh no wait that is for something else.

[LadyT]

We're also seeing a sharp rise in nationalism. Do vaccines cause nationalism?

Feel free to ignore the obvious if you'd like. There are direct correllations and accounts by parents that support this theory. But don't worry in ten years when the research catches up to what insightful people already know and we're still on whateverpolitics.com, I'll be there to remind you that I'm right and you're wrong.

A couple of years ago there was no scientific evidence to support the theory that cancer could be caused by excessive cellphone use and looks like that is shaping up to be exactly what people with common sense have known along.

"The warning from Dr. Ronald B. Herberman, director of the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute, is contrary to numerous studies that don't find a link between cancer and cell phone use, and a public lack of worry by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

Herberman is basing his alarm on early unpublished data. He says it takes too long to get answers from science, and he believes that people should take action now, especially when it comes to children."

[ib1yysguy]

Direct correlations by accounts of parents.

A study would show that the correlation was direct. Personal experiences are not proof or even solid evidence.

[uscitizen]

Naah LadyT, just keep em on talking on their cell phone while living under a high Tension electric line in a lead painted house.

What happened to your WOC anyway ? going soft ?

[LadyT]

Naah LadyT, just keep em on talking on their cell phone while living under a high Tension electric line in a lead painted house.

What happened to your WOC anyway ? going soft ?

LOL

Good point. Cellphones for all kids.

[uscitizen]

LOL

Good point. Cellphones for all kids.

build em into baby bottles and pacifiers.

[LadyT]

Direct correlations by accounts of parents.

A study would show that the correlation was direct. Personal experiences are not proof or even solid evidence.

Just like the other studies that found no link b/t brain cancer and heavy cell phone use.
Because as we all know, its impossible for a researcher to fail at finding correlations.
One or two parents in isolation, perhaps, but hundreds upon hundreds reporting the same thing is proof. Scientific proof no. But definitely enough proof for me not to over vaccinate. But feel free to load your kids up with unregulated Chinese made injections though. No one is stopping you nor is anyone is arguing that you shouldn't be able to. The issue I have is forcing parents to do something they don't want to do.

[uscitizen]

Apple is partnering with Fischer Price to market the new Baby Jesus iPhone.
Buy apple!

[Chapdog]

im glad you are so aware of it LT. Just curious where did you first start becoming interested in vaccine risks?

[LadyT]

im glad you are so aware of it LT. Just curious where did you first start becoming interested in vaccine risks?

I've been more and more stupid and meaningless anecdotes over the years and have seen the increase in autism. Its pretty scary when you're at childbearing age.

[Superfreak]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/07/23/cancer.cell.phones.ap/index.html

I'm willing to bet that all of the research that they will put into this should grant the scientific community the "No $hit Sherlock" award of the decade.

I think this issue needs to be resolved immediately by the left. Jump on your cells and start a non-stop phone campaign and keep hammering out those calls to your respective Representatives.

[Superfreak]

There's no effin' way I'd let my child be filled up the amount of vaccines that they are giving young kids today. Especially for vaccines that allegedly prevent illnesses that aren't deadly. Forcing them to get something like a flu vaccine or HPV vaccine when they are young and not at risk is stupid on its face.

Not to mention forcing vaccines on kids that have been shown to actually be HARMFUL to the kids.

[a11n]

Why do you build, knowing destruction is inevitable? Why do you yearn to live, knowing all things must die?

[uscitizen]

It is a republican plot! More autistic people mean more republican voters.

Remember they are the ones that pushed the no liability law thru for vaccine producers.

[TexasMeg]

Direct correlations by accounts of parents.

A study would show that the correlation was direct. Personal experiences are not proof or even solid evidence.

Tell that to the parents and families of children who severely regressed after a series of vaccines. Most will tell you that vaccines are necessary, but that not every child can handle them. I watched my normally developing 15 month old lose virtually everything he had learned in the two weeks following that series of vaccines. My son has a twin sister who did not react at all.

Parents know their children better than anybody so it stands to reason that personal experience is the BEST proof and solid evidence...especially considering the frequency of occurrence.

[uscitizen]

Meg, every generation thinks they have it all figured out. Evil spirts, bloodletting, etc
We do know more than we did but have quite a ways to go.

[Thorn]

No, but I do make drugs for a living.

Interesting; I didn't know that. I test drugs for a living.

[uscitizen]

Interesting; I didn't know that. I test drugs for a living.

yeah but you don't test Meth do ya ?

JK of course.

[Thorn]

yeah but you don't test Meth do ya ?

JK of course.

LOL! You know I don't. :) Quite the opposite, in pharmacological terms, actually.

[Chapdog]

Tell that to the parents and families of children who severely regressed after a series of vaccines. Most will tell you that vaccines are necessary, but that not every child can handle them. I watched my normally developing 15 month old lose virtually everything he had learned in the two weeks following that series of vaccines. My son has a twin sister who did not react at all.

Parents know their children better than anybody so it stands to reason that personal experience is the BEST proof and solid evidence...especially considering the frequency of occurrence.


Your just a mother of an autistic child. how can you possible be someone who should be listened to? Some people really think this way in life and only believe whats told to them from a position of authority such as a member of the CDC.

Thats just the typical people in this country. Some are leaders and some are followers.

[TexasMeg]

Your just a mother of an autistic child. how can you possible be someone who should be listened to? Some people really think this way in life and only believe whats told to them from a position of authority such as a member of the CDC.

Thats just the typical people in this country. Some are leaders and some are followers.

Sadly, I am afraid you are correct in your assumptions. As long as the sheep mentality exists it's going to keep happening time and time again. Until enough people stand up and demand answers, I don't foresee any changes in the near future.

[Chapdog]

Sadly, I am afraid you are correct in your assumptions. As long as the sheep mentality exists it's going to keep happening time and time again. Until enough people stand up and demand answers, I don't foresee any changes in the near future.

Its clear to me that everything should be questioned when it pertains to you or your beloved ESPECIALLY if it includes shooting something into you or your child's body, taking a new medicine, or having a surgery. COMMON FUCKING SENSE.

Its mind boggling people spend more time concerning themselves with selecting a new car or what curtains to use in there windows over managing their health and finances.

[ib1yysguy]

Tell that to the parents and families of children who severely regressed after a series of vaccines. Most will tell you that vaccines are necessary, but that not every child can handle them. I watched my normally developing 15 month old lose virtually everything he had learned in the two weeks following that series of vaccines. My son has a twin sister who did not react at all.

Parents know their children better than anybody so it stands to reason that personal experience is the BEST proof and solid evidence...especially considering the frequency of occurrence.

That's retarded. Parents don't generally know shit about how to diagnose what causes cancer or even the scientific method. No wonder you live in Texas.

Leave it up to the people doing controlled studies to determine it one way or another. Until that happens, taking some schmuck's word for it is just as good as guessing.

[uscitizen]

Its clear to me that everything should be questioned when it pertains to you or your beloved ESPECIALLY if it includes shooting something into you or your child's body, taking a new medicine, or having a surgery. COMMON FUCKING SENSE.

Its mind boggling people spend more time concerning themselves with selecting a new car or what curtains to use in there windows over managing their health and finances.

Those that question have been stomped pretty hard in recent years.
Profit is not in questioning, profit is in doing without questions.

[Chapdog]

LOL for example above Meg.. clearly you dont know your child more then the controlled study does.

[a11n]

It wasn't intellectuals who gave me the courage to overcome this gigantic task, but i can reveal this, i found the courage because i encountered two parties,cuntryman and german workers

[TexasMeg]

That's retarded. Parents don't generally know shit about how to diagnose what causes cancer or even the scientific method. No wonder you live in Texas.

Leave it up to the people doing controlled studies to determine it one way or another. Until that happens, taking some schmuck's word for it is just as good as guessing.

Who the hell said anything about diagnosing cancer??? Do you know ANYTHING about autism and autistic tendencies???? My point was that parents know their children's habits and behaviors better than anybody else ever could. When a very normal child starts displaying very obvious characteristics of something that was not there previously it's up to the doctors and scientists to LISTEN. As of now there is NO test for autism, no way to know who is at risk, and no answer as to what is causing it. You should really consider reading up on a subject before posting something so idiotic.

[a11n]

chapdog, you're stupid

[Chapdog]

chapdog, you're stupid

hail Hitler

[a11n]

Zu sieg.